[Grovenet] Fwd: Navy welcomes it's latest ship

[allnutt]

I wasn't sure whether the original post was a snide comment against Clinton 
or an even more sophisticated snide comment about Bush.
Just taken on its surface it seems to poke fun at Clinton for not spending 
more on the military.
But as with all really good double entendres  when you think about it, it 
makes an even funnier poke on another level. We are into Bush's 6th year yet 
the navy is just welcoming its new ship.  That means that for the last 6 
years Bush has been wasting military dollars on something worthless as well 
as useless and he probably overpaid some well connected contractors to do 
the job too. Now it has been introduced to the public for all to see the 
folly consistent with what Bush is known to do.

I applaud Alan for entertaining all of us regardless of which part of the 
red/blue/purple spectrum fits us best.
Just as with Clinton's leaving Bush a military that was able to go when 
called it will be up to history experts to sort out which aspects were well 
handled and which aspects were not.  In the meantime we are left with our 
own interpretations of what was and what is now by looking  on the suface or 
we can look for deeper meanings as well.

Katie



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <ron at cobi.biz>
To: <grovenet at rdrop.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [Grovenet] Fwd: Navy welcomes it's latest ship


> Thanks David. Once again you are a voice of reason in an all-too-often
> unreasoning world.
>
> I've been a bit heartened these past months to see our Congress taking 
> over
> the running of the country from the White House, as it should. The 
> President
> - still quite incompetent in my view - has been sounding and acting a lot
> more like the way I want to see my country represented to the world. I 
> have
> no doubt that's because the Republican party has pulled on his reins and
> taken control away from him before he costs every Republican member of
> Congress their jobs and ensures a Republican candidate won't have a chance
> at winning the Presidency next term.
>
> In the meantime the USA destroyed a working government in Iraq and we, the
> good people of America, have visited more chaos, death and disease on the
> people of Iraq than Saddam ever dreamed of.
>
> And now it looks like the next elections will be won by the candidates who
> have the best-sounding plan to get us out of there as soon as possible,
> leaving what was once a functioning country in which millions of people
> lived in peace, now in chaos where well-meaning citizens live in fear of 
> the
> thugs and militia we Americans turned loose on them.
>
> Who in America will stand trial for that?
>
> Ron D'Eau Claire
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Morelli [mailto:jo.david at verizon.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:08 PM
> To: Forest Grove local interests list
> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Fwd: Navy welcomes it's latest ship
>
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2006, at 6:45 PM, Alan et_al wrote:
>
>>
>> The ship is the first of its kind in the Navy and is a standing legacy
>> to President Bill Clinton "for his foresight in military
>> budget cuts" and his conduct while president.  ...
>
> Perhaps it is a minor point, but as part of the "peace dividend" Bush
> I reduced millitary spending and Defense Secretary Cheney cut
> military programs.  Clinton maintained military programs and spent
> more than Bush I had proposed to spend had he been re-elected.  Bush
> II fought the Taliban in Afghanistan using the military funded by
> Clinton - and they did a good job until the emphasis was taken to
> focus on Iraq.  Bush II sent troops and equipment into Iraq that had
> been trained and procured by Clinton - and they did a good job of
> defeating the Iraq military.
>
> It would appear that the foresight of President Clinton provided a
> military that was capable of winning in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
> So, what is the issue?
>
> BTW, the Republican party also gets some of the credit for the
> military condition when Bush II took office.  They funded the
> military for the last six years of the Clinton Presidency.
>
> David
>
>
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