[Grovenet] Social Security

[Eric Canon]

--- Steven <NoSpam03 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I don't remember the Dem's guy. But he was the
> head of the Dem party at the
> time.
> Did the same BS that Howard Dean does today.
> C. Rove = H. Clinton
> Ok. Your turn.

James Carville. I remembered. Now Steven, your
equation above: C. Rove = H. Clinton. I didn't do
well in Algebra. What does this mean?

Also, you respond with no incidents. All you
offer are names, whereas I gave specific examples
of Karl Roves smears and lies. Surely you can do
better than what you offer above. Give us some
examples of where they smeared unfairly. Give us
some examples of outright lies.
 
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> Behalf Of Eric Canon
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 11:29 PM
> To: Forest Grove local interests list
> Subject: RE: [Grovenet] Social Security
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> 
> --- Steven <NoSpam03 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Please correlate school funding to good
> > education.
> 
> Well Steven, I thought you were on vacation or
> something. Welcome back!
> 
> While I dream up a response to your question of
> me, please respond to what I wrote last week to
> you, which you must have missed:
> 
> --- Steven <NoSpam03 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Aw, heck. Now you blew it. Eric was trying to
> > explain to me why it is OK to
> > make something up when your name's not Rove.
> :)
> 
> Katie didn't blow it. Katie never blows it.
> She's
> always right on.
> 
> Jeane and I went to Crater Lake, and then over
> through the John Day area to Baker City and
> Joseph. Beautiful country! Gorgeous! I love it
> here, but over there is wonderful, too. In
> fact,
> there were even some liberals over there, so we
> were not entirely on our own.
> 
> For some reason, in spite of being a born and
> raised Oregonian, I had never seen the Blue
> Mountains or the Wallowas. What a sight! I
> wished
> for Robert Van Natta or Bud to be riding along
> with us to answer questions about the forests.
> 
> We also saw the Oregon Trail Interpretive
> Center
> just out of Baker City, and that was
> fascinating.
> We come from some tough stock. Coming across
> the
> country was not for sissies.
> 
> But I digress: Steven, I've said several times
> already that falsifying the news is not OK,
> whether Rove or NBC or whomever. I responded to
> your clip because, in my opinion, it was more
> fallacious and inflammatory than the exhibits
> it
> "exposed". None of it was journalism. It was
> all
> repugnant to me.
> 
> As for sources of news, I use NPR, The
> Oregonian,
> The New Yorker and Newsweek primarily. Long ago
> I
> gave up on all the rest unless it's live
> coverage
> of an unfolding event. Then I surf.
> 
> I do not feel one needs to endure the
> sensationalism of commercial news to be
> informed.
> When news is reported merely to sell ads,
> especially today, I turn the channel.
> 
> I'm an old dude. It used to be done with so
> much
> more dignity. Specifically, I refer to Walter
> Cronkite, Huntley Brinkley, and, locally, Tom
> McCall, and Paul Linnman. These were
> journalists!
> You endured the ads for the quality of the
> reporting, not the sordidness of the stories
> covered. I loved the news with those people!
> Today, it's pretty much NPR. There may be other
> sources, too, of which I'm ignorant, but I do
> not
> subject my tender sensibilities to the insult
> of
> some of this trash people call "news". It is
> not!
> And at NPR they almost always have two people
> of
> different persuasions, sometimes sitting at the
> same desk, so that the viewer gets at least two
> sides of an issue. Then I can decide, after I
> get
> the facts.
> 
> That said, please Steven, help me out. I see
> Carl
> Rove, and the commercial press in general, and
> FOX in particular, as in lock step. Carl Rove
> is
> the worst kind of spinner of the facts. He is
> not
> interested in the least with getting facts out
> for a decision from you and me. Rather, he
> spins
> facts and falsehoods to make the decision for
> us,
> to reflect his own view. Of course Kerry is a
> coward and a liar. Look what these vets who
> were
> there have to say about him! Our boy Bush? He
> served honorably in the National Guard. Record?
> Oh, sorry, those were lost.
> 
> For an equivalent from my side of things
> (liberal
> and D), I suppose the one I could offer is
> Clinton's guy (what's his name?), but does he
> lie
> and deceive? He spins, and you may not agree,
> but
> he is not Carl Rove. There's a difference.
> 
> Am I wrong? Who is the D equivalent of Carl
> Rove
> in your eyes?
> 
> Another potential area for misunderstanding is
> "Flat  Fatima". I am not familiar with the term
> or the person or where it comes from.
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