[Grovenet] What makes a city livable?

[Steven]

Maybe it is more than just Com vs Cap. Talking with an old commie, he 
became quite angry with my statement of how USSR's communists failed. He 
insisted that they weren't communist, they were socialist.
Even in a capitalist society, we see forms of communism. Large corps 
operate as a form of communism, same as China or Cuba. The employees 
don't vote on who their boss is.
I had a friend that worked for Busch Brewing. He could be fired for 
pulling an item out of the the hotel fridge that wasn't of the proper 
brands.
All city managers get the same pay. Isn't this a form of communism? Did 
we vote for or against the wifi?
The old commie? He told me that the problems so far have been 
implementation. Not the concept. Maybe that is the same with capitalism.

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> You wrote, "Communists and Capitalists both see economics as the moral
> yardstick for measuring all actions. I disagree."
>
> I see communist and capitalists as those who use economics as the 
> yardstick
> for measuring their actions. Not a "moral yardstick" but *the* yardstick.
> Morality is a personal decision based on personal choices that are 
> largely
> based on one's cultural values. I submit that anyone who assumes that 
> others
> have the same moral values, especially when considering the diversity of
> cultures around the planet, is going to be disappointed.
>