[Grovenet] Celebrate Independence Day, buy some foreign oil

[Eric Canon]

Why do you suspect some people would think
otherwise? I'm trying to understand where they
are coming from. Why would they want to portray
reality other than what is so obvious?

--- Geri <ggsteele at gte.net> wrote:

> "Personally I suspect human behavior."
> 
>    I was a little suspicious, too.  :)
>    
>    Geri
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Morelli" <jo.david at verizon.net>
> To: "grovenet" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:23 PM
> Subject: [Grovenet] Celebrate Independence Day,
> buy some foreign oil
> 
> 
> : Today we started our day with the Hillsboro
> parade, we attended a  
> : block party ( Forest Grove will allow streets
> to be temporarily  
> : closed for block parties - ask first ), and
> then after dinner we went  
> : for a movie.  ( The sulfur in fireworks is an
> allergy issue for our  
> : family. )
> : 
> : We went to see Al Gore in "An Inconvenient
> Truth".  There were some  
> : interesting items in it.  My personal
> favorite was the data from the  
> : Antarctic ice cores.  650,000 years of
> atmospheric CO2 and methane,  
> : and a similar length of 02 measurements.  The
> prior work provides a  
> : calibration to allow measurements of
> atmospheric CO2 and average  
> : atmospheric temperature from those records.
> : 
> : I checked the data from the ice cores.  There
> is little surprise  
> : here.  A bunch of ice ages and warm periods
> comprising six glacial  
> : cycles.  The article released by the American
> Association for the  
> : Advancement of Science (SCIENCE magazine)
> indicates that CO2 and  
> : temperature track each other over the
> millennium.  It also indicates  
> : that the CO2 level is 27% higher now than any
> peak in the last  
> : 650,000 years.  And the variation over the
> last two centuries has  
> : been a change from 280 ppm to 380 ppm.  We
> are operating  
> : significantly outside of the normal range. 
> Since there is no  
> : competing evidence from any other sources,
> this speaks to a  
> : qualitative change in the last few centuries
> affecting CO2 levels  
> : that was not present in the preceding 650,000
> years.  Personally I  
> : suspect human behavior.
> : 
> :
>
http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2005/1128ice.shtml
> : 
> : We do know about the effect of CO2 on the
> planetary heat balance, and  
> : we do have 650,000 years of records that
> indicate that the planet's  
> : temperature corresponds to CO2 levels, so I
> am guessing that we are  
> : headed for a few more degrees of average
> temperature caused by human  
> : activities.
> : 
> : So what do we do with an additional 20 feet
> of water in the oceans?   
> : That really doesn't sound too bad except for
> the effect on ocean  
> : currents and atmospheric currents.  Which
> plays into climate and  
> : weather.  Which only affects our food supply
> and water supply.   
> : Nothing much.
> : 
> : Denial is a proper solution, no doubt.  Or
> pray for Armageddon, if  
> : you are certain that you will be one of the
> elect.
> : 
> : David
> :
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