[Grovenet] Celebrate Independence Day, buy some foreign oil

[Steven]

Which behaviors do you suspect?
Procreation, defoliation, hydrocarbon, hyperpoliticization?

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> Behalf Of Geri
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:24 AM
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> "Personally I suspect human behavior."
> 
>    I was a little suspicious, too.  :)
>    
>    Geri
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Morelli" <jo.david at verizon.net>
> To: "grovenet" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:23 PM
> Subject: [Grovenet] Celebrate Independence Day, buy some foreign oil
> 
> 
> : Today we started our day with the Hillsboro parade, we attended a  
> : block party ( Forest Grove will allow streets to be temporarily  
> : closed for block parties - ask first ), and then after dinner we went  
> : for a movie.  ( The sulfur in fireworks is an allergy issue for our  
> : family. )
> : 
> : We went to see Al Gore in "An Inconvenient Truth".  There were some  
> : interesting items in it.  My personal favorite was the data from the  
> : Antarctic ice cores.  650,000 years of atmospheric CO2 and methane,  
> : and a similar length of 02 measurements.  The prior work provides a  
> : calibration to allow measurements of atmospheric CO2 and average  
> : atmospheric temperature from those records.
> : 
> : I checked the data from the ice cores.  There is little surprise  
> : here.  A bunch of ice ages and warm periods comprising six glacial  
> : cycles.  The article released by the American Association for the  
> : Advancement of Science (SCIENCE magazine) indicates that CO2 and  
> : temperature track each other over the millennium.  It also indicates  
> : that the CO2 level is 27% higher now than any peak in the last  
> : 650,000 years.  And the variation over the last two centuries has  
> : been a change from 280 ppm to 380 ppm.  We are operating  
> : significantly outside of the normal range.  Since there is no  
> : competing evidence from any other sources, this speaks to a  
> : qualitative change in the last few centuries affecting CO2 levels  
> : that was not present in the preceding 650,000 years.  Personally I  
> : suspect human behavior.
> : 
> : http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2005/1128ice.shtml
> : 
> : We do know about the effect of CO2 on the planetary heat balance, and  
> : we do have 650,000 years of records that indicate that the planet's  
> : temperature corresponds to CO2 levels, so I am guessing that we are  
> : headed for a few more degrees of average temperature caused by human  
> : activities.
> : 
> : So what do we do with an additional 20 feet of water in the oceans?   
> : That really doesn't sound too bad except for the effect on ocean  
> : currents and atmospheric currents.  Which plays into climate and  
> : weather.  Which only affects our food supply and water supply.   
> : Nothing much.
> : 
> : Denial is a proper solution, no doubt.  Or pray for Armageddon, if  
> : you are certain that you will be one of the elect.
> : 
> : David
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