[Grovenet] déjà vu All Over Again

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

In the President's case I am concerned about the future of "due process",
but I also want very much to see Congress "DO the process..."

Ron D'Eau Claire 


-----Original Message-----
From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
Behalf Of Geri
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:51 PM
To: Ed Davie; Forest Grove local interests list
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] déjà vu All Over Again


I agree, Ed -- it's not good, including the loss of much of "due process!"

Geri

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Davie" <edavie at verizon.net>
To: "Forest Grove local interests list" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] déjà vu All Over Again


Stephen, face it. It couldn't be much worse!
Ed
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steven
  To: Forest Grove local interests list
  Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Grovenet] déjà vu All Over Again


  People like you are the reason we have "due 
process" in this country

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com 
[mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com]On
  > Behalf Of Steele, Mike
  > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:24 AM
  > To: Forest Grove local interests list
  > Subject: Re: [Grovenet] déjà vu All Over Again
  >
  >
  > And, in his second at bat, having already 
struck out as described, we
  > have this in today's Oregonian:
  >
  > By Georgie Anne Geyer,
  >
  > "W'S WORDS FROM VIETNAM BETRAY HIS NAIVETE 
ABOUT WARFARE"
  >
  > [From me:  having savaged Sen. McCain's 
domestic realities in the 2000
  > election (with the rumor of a black 
child...actually McCain's adopted
  > child), we now get this during W's little trip 
to Viet Nam]:
  >
  > "I realize W. missed the last few months of 
his time with the Air
  > National Guard during the Vietnam War, but I 
had not realized, until
  > now, that he completely ignored what happened 
in Vietnam. News flash,
  > George. We lost!"
  >
  > But it did not end there. That same day, as 
the Bushes passed the lake
  > in Hanoi where John McCain, half-dead, was 
pulled out after his plane
  > crashed in 1967, the president said: "And one 
of the most poignant
  > moments of the drive in was passing the lake 
where John McCain got
  > pulled out of the lake. And he's a friend of 
ours. He suffered a lot as
  > a result of his imprisonment, and yet, we 
passed the place where he was,
  > literally, saved, in one way, by the people 
pulling him out."
  >
  > One can only imagine what Sen. McCain thought 
when he read that; in his
  > autobiography, "Faith of My Fathers," he wrote 
that the shouting crowd
  > who pulled him out stripped his clothes off, 
"spitting on me, kicking me
  > and striking me repeatedly." And how a 
Vietnamese woman intervened "to
  > take me away from this group of aggrieved 
citizens who seemed intent on
  > killing me." Saved, indeed!
  >
  > On top of so many other indications of how 
little he understands Iraq,
  > Bush's words in Vietnam were chilling. The 
fact is that the president
  > doesn't even begin to grasp warfare 
(conventional or unconventional),
  > foreign policy, the psychology of foreign 
peoples, or the institutions
  > and moral principles that have underlain 
America's formerly respected
  > place in the world at least since World War 
II.
  >
  > [So...how many more strikeouts might we expect 
during the remaining 790
  > days we'll be afflicted with this dolt in the 
White House?]
  >
  > --Mike
  >

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