[Grovenet] Avoiding WAR (WAS: draft vs. volunteer)

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Ghengis Khan isn't exactly the poster boy for effective world government in
my book. I'd look to Alexander the Great instead. Under his rule the human
race experienced one of the greatest spurts of growth and enlightenment in
history, perhaps even eclipsing, in relative terms, the advances in
knowledge, art and human relations of the modern world. 

World empire is a well tried and proven way to ensure world peace. When
President Bush announced that we would invade any country we "feared" (his
word), I wondered if that was his plan. With all the yahoos charging up and
down the streets waving flags from their cars it sounded like he might have
had the support he needed. Indeed, I wonder if some of the backlash that
cost his party so dearly in the last election wasn't more anger and
disappointment over his failure to pursue the idea of a "Pax Americana" than
anything else. 

I have to agree that it is probably the shortest path from were we are today
to a world peace, and probably one that risked the fewest American lives.
The problem is that history shows us that such a peace has never been
long-lasting. 

If we study animal populations the prognosis is grim. They suggest that
we'll learn to stop fighting and start cooperating only when we reach such a
desperate stage that few humans are left alive and those who remain have
nothing others want, or that others want badly enough to make it worthwhile
spending the energy to take it. 

Perhaps this is the point where we can consider whether we're bound to
following the rules of the animal kingdom or whether in our spiritual
arrogance there may be something we Humans can do that breaks away from that
mold.

Ron D'Eau Claire 



-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of David Morelli
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:00 AM
To: Forest Grove local interests list
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Avoiding WAR (WAS: draft vs. volunteer)


Sure, but a world government is something new and may require a new  
paradigm.

We have had several attempts at a world government, Ghengis Khan was  
pretty successful, but adapting his methods may not be desirable.   
<smile>

I would expect that a move to a world government must be customer  
driven rather than top down from the people who desire to rule the  
world.  Perhaps like the transition of the Columbia Regional  
Association of Governments into the Metropolitan Service District  
( Metro).

David


On Nov 26, 2006, at 11:16 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> David wrote:
> Which national model shall we follow?  Some may be desirable, others 
> are pretty repugnant.
>
> --------------------------
>
> Isn't that why every successful government to date built on what
> went before
> it, and those who survive over time have adapted and learned from  
> their
> experiences?
>
> Ron D'Eau Claire
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