[Grovenet] bad politics

allnutt allnutt at verizon.net
Thu Oct 5 08:58:39 PDT 2006


Not enough detail here.

The only guys who knew about it were R's and yes they did nothing about it. 
But no D's were saving it for an October surprise. If any body was saving it 
for an October surprise it was an R, and in that case the republicans have a 
bigger problem with their own members than they do with their competition.

As for the guy who did it umpteen years ago and kept his office, you are 
either leaving out the details on purpose or Rush forgot to mention them to 
you.
Many  years ago (not simultaneously but close in time) there were two other 
cases of congress people who became involved with pages (male congress 
person - female page). One was a D and one was  an R. Neither the R's nor 
the D's kicked their rep out of office immediately but both of the reps went 
on to run for re-election.  The R did not get re-elected but the D did. And 
the D got re-elected for several more terms. Is this because D's are more 
'tolerant of perverts'? No. It is because D's could look at facts and see 
what was going on.  The R's advances toward his page were unwanted so he got 
booted out by voters, not his R leadership. The D and his page was a case of 
two people who met who took a genuine interest in each other.  They 
continued dating and were together for at least 10 years after the initial 
scandal, which helps people understand how he could get re-elected.  Rush is 
probably telling you that the R was dealt with and the D was not. But that 
isn't the 'rest of the story'.
Now days both of the reps would probably be forced to resign immediately if 
they were caught and not be allowed to run again. But we are living in 
different times.
The really interesting thing is that the R's of today haven't learned their 
lesson about what to do in a crisis.  You are supposed to be honest, tell 
people it was a mistake and say you're sorry.  People are very forgiving and 
you can get away with all kinds of stuff.  You get in trouble when you lie 
and say - it didn't happen, oh I mean I didn't know about it, oh I mean I 
didn't know enough about it, oh I mean it was somebody else's 
responsibility, oh I am sorry now that it has blown up in my face - it is 
all the other party's fault.

Don't worry Steven. A new poll says that R voters don't really care if the 
Florida rep was scum. They know that their own rep is squeaky clean and this 
isn't changing any votes (except maybe in Florida).


Katie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven" <NoSpam03 at comcast.net>
To: "Forest Grove local interests list" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] bad politics


>I don't know who to be more upset with.
> The guy who was predatory to young kids.
> They guys who made the law of what he did legal.
> The guys who knew about it and did nothing.
> The guys who knew about it and held it for October surprise.
> The guys who've done the same in the past and stayed in office.
> A society in which a scene in the movie "Airplane" passed something 
> similar
> off as humor.
>
> "God works in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform..."
> We are at war with a culture that says they have God on their side.
> We should pray that there is no God?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com]On
>> Behalf Of JBlair2154 at aol.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 10:54 PM
>> To: grovenet at rdrop.com
>> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] bad politics
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/4/2006 1:32:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
>> grovenet-request at rdrop.com writes:
>>
>> ... and a  Republican congressman's sexual appetite might hurt the
>> Republican  Party's chance to retain control of Congress.
>>
>> Something is really wrong  here.
>>
>> David:
>> "God works in mysterious ways, His wonders to  perform..."(grin)
>> Joy (with tongue firmly in  cheek)
>>
>>
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