[Grovenet] bad politics

Thu Oct 5 13:32:54 PDT 2006

I don't defend Foley.  Nobody is defending Foley.  Some people started accusing Republican leadership of a cover-up.  They may be right.  I just say that, as the Plame fiasco has shown, it may be a bit premature.

  You may dismiss Drudge but some "journalists" respect him.
  http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2514276&page=1

  Given that you use common dreams as your sources, I think Drudge should do just fine.  He has already discredited ABC to some extend on this story by publishing a report from a republican blogger who discovered the other day that those bad IMs were produced while Foley was corresponding with an 18-year-old.  And ABC has acknowledged the "error."  (Haven't they learned anything from Dan Rather?)

  Also, the definition of pedophile may be very broad but what matter is the law.   There is no proof yet that any crime has been committed.  There has not been any sex with minors and those IMs were exchanged with an adult (technically.)  So if there was no crime there can't be a cover-up.

  I'm just suggesting, as I did with the Plame fiasco, let's just wait before hurling any more accusations.  It seems you are always assume the worst about Republicans.  

  Krystof

Geri <ggsteele at gte.net> wrote:
  GroveNuts,

My personal opinion is that using Drudge as a source
is beyond worthless. Matt Drudge is the person who
blamed the pages for this situation, calling them little
beasts.

The fact remains, Foley is the responsible party. He
sent the messages he sent, no matter what any pages
wrote to him. Foley is a pedophile.

Anyone who is an apologist for him has twisted thinking.

Geri

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Krystof Zmudzinski" 
To: "Forest Grove local interests list" 
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] bad politics

More from Drudge:

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MON OCT 5 2006 2:53:48 ET XXXXX 

CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY
**World Exclusive** 
**Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT** 

According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal. 

According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats. This source, an ally of Edmund, also adamantly reports that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. 

The news come on the heels that former FBI Chief Louis Free has been named to investigate the mess. 

Developing... 

Krystof Zmudzinski wrote:
When the Plame thing happened, most of you jumped on Bush and Co. with all kinds of accusations. I wondered then if there were enough facts to accuse anybody of anything. Especially knowing what a liar Wilson was. It turned out there was nothing to the original charges and Wilson is still a liar.

Now, without knowing anything you again throw accusations around.

Well, check this out. It may not amount to anything but this is getting very interesting.

Is seems that Democrats are presumed Innocent unless and even after they are proven guilty. Republicans, on the other hand, are assumed guilty unless and even after they are proven innocent. Will this be another crow you should but you won't eat?

[Disclaimer: Drudge is not always right. We are, after all, just human. And somebody maybe pranking him.]

-- Krystof Z.

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UN is not the answer

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