[Grovenet] illegals

Cornelius First corneliusfirst at hotmail.com
Mon Oct 9 09:21:47 PDT 2006


Well said David.

Everyone will need to be at the table.  Everyone will lose a little somthing 
to come up with a decision that everyone can live with.  People will learn 
things about their neighbors they never knew.  What it takes to live their 
life.  Why they do what they do in the way they do it.  Some of it will make 
sense, some will be difficult to deal with.   Even "Pat" has a reason for 
doing what he is doing.  But if we don't sit down and discuss it, he'll 
never understand that it's not just all about him making money for the 
service he renders.

Like it or not, undocumented workers are here.  You will never succeed in 
strictly enforcing the borders in a way that will keep undocumented workers 
out, even with a wall, without discussion.  even then compliance is going to 
be tough.

>From: David Morelli <jo.david at verizon.net>
>Reply-To: Forest Grove local interests list <grovenet at rdrop.com>
>To: Forest Grove local interests list <grovenet at rdrop.com>
>Subject: Re: [Grovenet] illegals
>Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 23:05:36 -0700
>
>On Oct 2, 2006, at 6:02 PM, JJSAW at aol.com wrote:
> > A lady wrote the best letter in  the Editorials (obviously not the
> > NT) in ages!! It explains things better than  all the baloney you
> > hear on TV.
> > ... I BREAK INTO YOUR HOUSE..
>
>I keep coming back to this description because it just seems
>incomplete.  So, keep everything that you said and fill in some blanks.
>
>You don't live alone, you share the house with room mates.  Everyone
>splits the expenses  for rent, utilities, and household chores
>according to an agreed formula.  The house rules specify that the
>whole household gets to vote on new members.
>
>One of your room mates, "Pat", keeps bringing "friends" over for the
>night or longer.  It turns out that Pat is taking enough money from
>the visitors to cover Pat's share of the rent, and allows other
>visitors to do Pat's share of house work in exchange for a place to
>stay in your house.
>
>I am hungry and cold.  When we meet on the street, Pat describes the
>situation, tells me how to get into the house and what to do when I
>get there.
>
>So I go to work for Pat and ...
>
> > ... I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me
> > in  your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all
> > the beds and  washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the
> > floors; I've done all the  things you don't like to do. I'm hard-
> > working and honest (except for when I  broke into your house).
> > According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you
> > must add me  to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and
> > provide other benefits  to me and to my family (my husband will do
> > your yard work because he too is  hard-working and honest, except
> > for that breaking-in part). If you try to call  the police or force
> > me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house  carrying
> > signs that proclaim my right to be there.
> > It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I
> > do, and I'm  just trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working and
> > honest, person, except  for ... well, you know.
> > And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing
> > only a  fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you
> > can do about  it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice
> > and being an  anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, I want you to learn my
> > language so you  can communicate with me.
>
>Should you talk to Pat?
>
>David
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