[Grovenet] America's Propaganda Quagmire

Fri Sep 8 14:36:32 PDT 2006

One of the nice things about having never voted for Clinton is that I never 
feel like I have to defend him.
This really isn't about Clinton.  It is about the country.

A responsible media corporation could not be expected to make it absolutely 
perfect but they should be expected to make it less than obviously slanted.
Bush has two more years to go and while you might like to think that they 
will 'Clintonize' it to get in her good graces, if that is even a 
possibility then they could just as easily be showing it 'as is' to suck up 
to the bushies who are already there.

Call me foolish but I would prefer the networks to think about their 
audience rather than potential political payback when they make programming 
decisions.
With the emotions that run with 9/11 it seems particularly unhelpful to make 
the message misleading on purpose.
This country deserves to have accurate and unbiased information so that they 
can make informed choices. Or at least as accurate and unbiased as 
reasonably possible.
In order for us collectively to understand where we are, we really should 
understand how we got to this point, and not be sold a docudrama of 
politics.

I wasn't planning on watching it and I'm not planning on watching the show 
either.  But it will be fun to watch what ABC does.
Whether they 'Clintonize' the movie or 'de bushify' it, I hope that it turns 
out to be something that will lead to some respect for those who were 
impacted the most and some understanding of how our country works and how 
decisions of bombing other people is not a decision to made lightly.

Katie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven" <NoSpam03 at comcast.net>
To: "Forest Grove local interests list" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] America's Propaganda Quagmire

> The customers haven't seen it yet. If it is edited/clintonized, the
> customers won't see it.
> Unless the customers are the DNC?
> Which is a possibility. With Hil a difinte contender in 2008, and choosing
> the FCC board, ABC execs don't want to piss off the future government.
>
> Don't get me wrong. I worked in the business. There was the rough cut,
> director's cut and lawyer's cut. The network can do as they want. It is 
> just
> that in many cases like this, the right or left has used the 'C' word. I
> don't see it in the media frenzie, yet.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com]On
>> Behalf Of allnutt
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 7:23 AM
>> To: Forest Grove local interests list
>> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] America's Propaganda Quagmire
>>
>>
>> Technically it is called listening to your customers. They aren't calling
>> it
>> censorship because that is when the government tells you what to print or
>> not to print.
>> In this case the government would prefer that the 'dramatization' be as
>> made
>> up as possible becauses the truth would be damaging to the current office
>> holder.
>> ABC is free to air it as is if they want they control their own
>> programming.
>> It is just that customers ultimately decide whether to watch it.
>>
>> Katie
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steven" <NoSpam03 at comcast.net>
>> To: "Forest Grove local interests list" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] America's Propaganda Quagmire
>>
>>
>> > Hmm. No one is calling the re-edit of the program prior to air as
>> > censorsship.
>> >
>> >> -------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> ABC is planning to air a two-part mini-series entitled The Path to 
>> >> 9/11
>> >> this
>> >> Sunday and Monday.
>> >>
>> >> In spite of its claim to be based on the 9/11 Commission Report, the
>> film
>> >> reportedly includes numerous inaccuracies and lays the blame for the
>> >> September 11 tragedy on the Clinton Administration.  One scene
>> reportedly
>> >> depicts a senior Clinton Administration official calling off the
>> capture
>> >> or
>> >> killing of Osama bin Laden. This depiction of events has been refuted
>> by
>> >> former Bush Administration anti-terrorism chief, Richard Clarke.
>> >>
>> >> It also has been reported that the film blames the intelligence
>> >> breakdowns
>> >> on bureaucratic obstacles allegedly created by the Clinton
>> >> Administration,
>> >> even though Republican 9/11 Commissioner Slade Gordon has previously
>> >> refuted
>> >> that claim.
>> >>
>> >> -----------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> True? Not true? Does anyone care? Considering our recent history at 
>> >> the
>> >> polls, facts are about the least important concern to American voters.
>> I
>> >> say
>> >> that honestly, recognizing that when people are sufficiently 
>> >> frightened
>> >> or
>> >> confused facts become the least of our concerns.
>> >>
>> >> In the meantime the propaganda quagmire gets deeper and deeper. As 
>> >> long
>> >> as
>> >> the propaganda is mixed in well with "news" or "political analysis" it
>> >> becomes very difficult to recognize.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe impossible.
>> >>
>> >> Ron D'Eau Claire
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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