[Grovenet] A bit of phun with physics . . . . . .

[Dale Wiley]

Rons take brings up a point, and that is the color of grass, and these fall
leaves, is also the result of the way the changing sunlight is reflected off
the leaves of both plants. Given the physiologial changes, you would get a
differnt result yet if the angle of the sun was different, than it is right
now. Plants respond to photo period more than they do the lowering
tempatures.

Since we have passed the autumal equinox, all plants are preparing for a
dormancy period that will result in true dormancy until the winter solstice.
About 2 to 3 weeks after the winter solsitce, all plants will exhibit signs
of coming out of dormancy, with those stages dependent upon that increasing
photo period. We have learned to manipulate grass and other plants to behave
with fertilizers etc, and get a faster return to color. Grass being a
prostrate plant with more leaf surface exposed to the photo period, always
responds faster than more upright type materials.

I have used near infrared spectrograph anaylsis in the past to get a very
accurate determination of a plants health and fertility needs. It determines
to an exact part per million what is going on inside the plant. This is used
to determine the exact levels of nutrient requyired by a plant, and allows
you to talior a fertilizer and nutrient program exactly to the plants needs.

I myself do not much care for the dark days coming up, and not being real in
touch with pagan festivals that celebrate the solsitce, but I still look
forward to those days when the light starts returning.

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From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com]On
Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:02 AM
To: 'Forest Grove local interests list'
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] A bit of phun with physics . . . . . .


That's a fun read. Thanks!

It brings to mind an interesting thought in "inverted logic": leaves full of
chlorophyll are green because they cannot use green light. They use all of
the visible light spectrum *except* blue and yellow. That is, they absorb
and use mostly red light but not blue and yellow. Blue and yellow light gets
reflected. Mixed in our eyes and we see green; a green leaf.

When the chlorophyll is gone, the leaves now do almost the opposite. They
absorb the blue light but not the red or yellow, so it is reflected and they
look red or yellow or any of the various mixtures of the two.

So what we see, when we see a color of leaf, is the opposite of what the
leaf "sees". What we see is what it cannot absorb and that light is
reflected to be seen by our eyes.

That begins to remind me of many of the political discussions here.

Ron D'Eau Claire



-----Original Message-----
From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
Behalf Of Meredith Bliss
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:11 PM
To: Forest Grove local interests list
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] A bit of phun with physics . . . . . .


Three cheers for those anthocyanins!

On Thursday 28 September 2006 17:32, Bob Browning wrote:
> The Science Behind Fall Foliage
>  By WeatherBug Meteorologist, Adam Bell
> After months of heat, humidity and ongoing drought, the time has come
> for summer to gracefully step aside. In its place the spotlight shines
> on autumn, a season renowned for cooler temperatures and the return of
> football. However, while attending a football game in the chilly
> weather can be invigorating after the stifling summer heat, that's not
> all the Fall season has to offer. Another popular feature of the
> post-summer months is the fall foliage. Starting in mid-September and
> lasting until early November, the changing leaf colors can be seen in
> the Pacific Northwest, the Rockies, Midwest, Ohio Valley, the eastern
> mountains as well as the mid-Atlantic and the Northeast. With these
> changes arriving very soon, let's take a look at what makes those
> leaves change color. First things first, why are leaves green during
> the spring and summer? One word: chlorophyll. This green pigment is
> abundant in leaf cells during the growing season. As a result, the
> chlorophylls' green color masks out any other pigments in the leaf. In
> order to understand the changing fall colors, we must learn how the
> leaf works. In addition to giving leaves their green color,
> chlorophyll also captures the sun's energy. Chlorophyll utilizes this
> energy to split water molecules, brought into the leaf via the roots,
> into hydrogen and oxygen atoms. Meanwhile, tiny pores on the surface
> of the leaf, called stomata, take in carbon dioxide from the air. Once
> the carbon dioxide reacts with sugars in the plant, it too is broken
> down to its simplest parts, carbon and oxygen. After all of the
> compounds have been simplified, the leaf begins the reconstruction
> process. Individual atoms of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen are joined
> together to make glucose, an energy-rich sugar that nourishes the
> plant. For every molecule of glucose that is produced, there are six
> molecules of oxygen leftover. The stomata release this gas into the
> air we breathe. This process, called photosynthesis, tends to destroy
> the chlorophyll. But the warm temperatures and strong incoming solar
> radiation during the spring and summer helps to create more
> chlorophyll to replace what is lost. Because the chlorophyll is
> constantly replenished, the green pigment is always present in the
> leaf, keeping the tree green. That's all well and good, but what gives
> the leaves that unmistakable fall color? During the autumn season, the
> Northern Hemisphere starts to tilt away from the sun. This shortens
> the window of daylight, which in turn lowers the temperatures. As this
> cooling takes place, a thin layer of cells, located at the junction of
> the leaf and stem, begin to swell and form a cork-like substance. This
> swelling cuts off the supply of water from the roots, thereby taking
> away one key ingredient of photosynthesis. Another important part of
> photosynthesis, the sunlight, is also in short supply due to the
> Earth's tilt. The lack of water and sunlight halts the photosynthetic
> process and therefore ceases chlorophyll production. With this absence
> of chlorophyll, other pigments in the leaves finally have a chance to
> come forward. One such pigment is carotenoid. Responsible for the
> yellows, oranges, browns and hues in between, carotenoids are also
> found in familiar foods. Corn, carrots and bananas are just a few that
> are colored by this pigment. Like chlorophyll, the carotenoids are
> present in the leaf cell during the entire growing season. The
> similarities stop there, however, as the concentration of carotenoids
> is much less than that of chlorophyll. Some species of trees that have
> higher amounts of carotenoids include hickories, birch, poplar, sugar
> maple and black maple. The reds and purples come from a pigment called
> anthocyanin. It too adds color to foods such as cranberries, red
> apples, cherries and strawberries. In contrast to chlorophyll and
> carotenoids, anthocyanins are not always present in the leaf cell.
> Their formation is dependent on low levels of phosphate in the leaf.
> Because there is a high level of phosphate during the growing season,
> the production of anthocyanins must hold off until that level drops,
> usually around late summer. A few trees that produce red and purple
> leaves in the Fall include the dogwood and the red maple. Weather
> plays a very large role determining how vibrant the fall color will
> be. A warm, wet period during the autumn will decrease the brightness
> of the foliage. A severe frost early in the season will likely kill
> the leaves, turning them brown and causing them to fall from the tree.
> Severe drought could delay the fall colors by two to three weeks. So
> what are the weather conditions for great fall foliage? While there is
> no magic recipe, the best colors tend to be seen when there is a warm,
> rainy spring, a summer that is not brutally hot and a fall season with
> sunny days and crisp, cool nights. Since a few of the northern states
> are already reporting signs of fall color, now is the time to start
> planning that foliage drive. For those who have never driven through
> the changing colors, you should make an attempt this autumn as the
> trip is truly scenic.

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