[Grovenet] Verizon FiOS v. Comcast

Ron D'Eau Claire ron at cobi.biz
Wed Dec 26 16:35:47 PST 2007


The question seems to be, "an exclusive what?" 

Ron D'Eau Claire 



-----Original Message-----
From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
Behalf Of Ed Davie
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 3:48 PM
To: Forest Grove local interests list
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Verizon FiOS v. Comcast


Has anyone seen Comcast installing FiOS in Forest 
Grove?
I certainly haven't and I doubt that they have it.
In this case Verizon has an exclusive.
Ed
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Geri
  To: jeff at jeffhowden.com ; Forest Grove local 
interests list
  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Verizon FiOS v. Comcast


  I hadn't had a chance to post this till now, but 
also
  I did not hear any of the Comcast folks who 
recently
  came to my house to offer their services/etc., 
or the
  ones who came to give us our digital upgrade, 
tell me
  anything about their cable that wasn't true -
  In other words, none of the four different 
Comcast
  employees said what Steven said they are saying
  about fiber ...

  Just wanting to put that record straight.


  Geri

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Jeff Howden" <jeff at jeffhowden.com>
  To: "'Forest Grove local interests list'" 
<grovenet at rdrop.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Verizon FiOS v. Comcast


  > Steven,
  >
  >><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
  >> From: Steven
  >>
  >> Verizon has Fios, Fiber. Comcast has Cable. 
They have a  fiber
  >>infrastructure but not to your home.
  >><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
  >
  > In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't 
really matter when 95+% of your
  > network is fiber.  There's really little 
difference between coax from a box
  > down the street that has fiber to it versus 
fiber to a converter on the
  > outside of your house except that the approach 
using the one outside your
  > house requires far more pieces of equipment, 
which means higher initial
  > setup costs, longer term contracts, more 
ongoing maintenance costs, higher
  > longterm capital expenditures to maintain, and 
more splitting of existing
  > capital expenditures to cover said equipment 
resulting in necessary
  > sacrifices in the equipment quality and 
capabilities.
  >
  > Further, it doesn't really matter what comes 
into your house at the current
  > speed offerings as both coax and fiber are 
nowhere near their operating
  > capacity.
  >
  >><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
  >> Bait and switch, deceptive promotion.
  >><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
  >
  > Not even close.  Perhaps by your own 
definition, but not by any conventional
  > defintions.
  >
  > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_and_switch
  >
  > Thanks,
  >
  > Jeff Howden
  > support at vosandhowden.com
  >
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