[Grovenet] Verizon FiOS v. Comcast

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Sorry. I wasn't clear. Why is Verizon's spending a lot of money on FiOS
important to you? 

Ron D'Eau Claire 

-----Original Message-----
From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
Behalf Of Ed Davie
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 4:55 PM
To: Forest Grove local interests list
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Verizon FiOS v. Comcast


Not to me. Verizon has spent the whole summer and 
a bundle of money installing the FiOS 
infrastructure in Forest Grove. If anyone else had 
done that, there would be some evidence of it. 
There simply isn't.
Ed

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ron D'Eau Claire
  To: 'Forest Grove local interests list'
  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 4:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Verizon FiOS v. Comcast


  The question seems to be, "an exclusive what?"

  Ron D'Eau Claire



  -----Original Message-----
  From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com 
[mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
  Behalf Of Ed Davie
  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 3:48 PM
  To: Forest Grove local interests list
  Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Verizon FiOS v. Comcast


  Has anyone seen Comcast installing FiOS in 
Forest
  Grove?
  I certainly haven't and I doubt that they have 
it.
  In this case Verizon has an exclusive.
  Ed
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Geri
    To: jeff at jeffhowden.com ; Forest Grove local
  interests list
    Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:02 AM
    Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Verizon FiOS v. 
Comcast


    I hadn't had a chance to post this till now, 
but
  also
    I did not hear any of the Comcast folks who
  recently
    came to my house to offer their services/etc.,
  or the
    ones who came to give us our digital upgrade,
  tell me
    anything about their cable that wasn't true -
    In other words, none of the four different
  Comcast
    employees said what Steven said they are 
saying
    about fiber ...

    Just wanting to put that record straight.


    Geri

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Jeff Howden" <jeff at jeffhowden.com>
    To: "'Forest Grove local interests list'"
  <grovenet at rdrop.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:11 AM
    Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Verizon FiOS v. 
Comcast


    > Steven,
    >
    >><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
    >> From: Steven
    >>
    >> Verizon has Fios, Fiber. Comcast has Cable.
  They have a  fiber
    >>infrastructure but not to your home.
    >><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
    >
    > In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't
  really matter when 95+% of your
    > network is fiber.  There's really little
  difference between coax from a box
    > down the street that has fiber to it versus
  fiber to a converter on the
    > outside of your house except that the 
approach
  using the one outside your
    > house requires far more pieces of equipment,
  which means higher initial
    > setup costs, longer term contracts, more
  ongoing maintenance costs, higher
    > longterm capital expenditures to maintain, 
and
  more splitting of existing
    > capital expenditures to cover said equipment
  resulting in necessary
    > sacrifices in the equipment quality and
  capabilities.
    >
    > Further, it doesn't really matter what comes
  into your house at the current
    > speed offerings as both coax and fiber are
  nowhere near their operating
    > capacity.
    >
    >><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
    >> Bait and switch, deceptive promotion.
    >><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
    >
    > Not even close.  Perhaps by your own
  definition, but not by any conventional
    > defintions.
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_and_switch
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Jeff Howden
    > support at vosandhowden.com
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