[Grovenet] America's Trillion-Dollar Baby

[Steven]

How does the grad prgram fit into the equation? PU doesn't pay prop 
taxes. The students don't run businesses. What income is derived for the 
city in this venture?.

David Morelli wrote:
> No, I am saying that our tax base is shifting from one that was based  
> upon an urban mix to one based upon a suburban mix.
>
> Formerly, we had a city with businesses and residences providing a  
> tax base with residents and workers representing the consumption  
> base.  Now, we are moving to a city with a reduced percentage of tax  
> base coming from business and an increase in consumption coming from  
> residents.
>
> The mantra that has been around for a long time goes, "residential  
> land doesn't support residential services, it needs to be subsidized  
> by business land."
>
> In the case of Matshushita and the Pacific graduate programs, they  
> grew by leaving Forest Grove which reduced in-town and out-of-town  
> employees.  In the case of Pacific, I understand that the city  
> financially assisted them in their effort to leave.
>
> David
>
> On Feb 9, 2007, at 11:23 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>
>  
>> Are you saying that local businesses cost the city money?
>>
>> Otherwise how can the fact that a business grows by hiring an out- 
>> of-town
>> employee cause an imbalance in the city's budget?
>>
>> Ron D'Eau Claire
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet- bounces at rdrop.com] On
>> Behalf Of David Morelli
>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 12:38 AM
>> To: Forest Grove local interests list
>> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] America's Trillion-Dollar Baby
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>>
>>    
>>> Carol:
>>>
>>> ...
>>> That raises an interesting question: What percentage of the 20,000
>>> residents of Forest Grove work in Forest Grove? I suspect it's less
>>> than half, but I don't know. Also, I suspect it's a declining
>>> number. The number of commuters is growing.
>>>
>>> Even if it's a fairly small number who commute, that means that
>>> Forest Grove is being driven not by the needs of the community we
>>> call Forest Grove, but by the needs of the larger Portland
>>> metropolitan area. I suspect we are already simply another
>>> "neighborhood" of that metropolis. And it's a growing metropolis.
>>>
>>> Ron D'Eau Claire
>>>       
>> Good questions.  I would suggest that we ask the inverse as well.
>> What percentage of the jobs in the Forest Grove vicinity are filled
>> by persons commuting into Forest Grove?
>>
>> Some time in the last few decades, the jobs and workers were in rough
>> balance.  Since that time it has fallen out of balance and is moving
>> further away.  The loss of Matshushita and the Pacific University
>> graduate programs hurt those numbers just recently.
>>
>> That imbalance is a likely suspect for the imbalance in the city's
>> budget.
>>
>> David
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