[Grovenet] Wow, Have we reached the tipping point ! ? ! ? ! ?

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

JFK and President Roosevelt certainly were tenacious, as were virtually all
the achievers throughout history, both good and bad. 

Is tenacity being indicted as character flaw because some flawed characters
exhibit it? 

How can 

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Didn't Ted Bundy, the unibomber and others have that same kind of tenacity?
I don't recall that they paid any attention to the polls either.  Makes me
wonder if Clint Eastwood admires them too.

Katie
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  Clint Eastwood against Iraq war, but admires Bush "tenacity" 
  Fri Feb 9, 12:21 AM ET 

  Hollywood icon Clint Eastwood has said he opposed the United States'
decision to go to war in Iraq but said he admired the "tenacity" of
President George W. Bush.

  In an interview with Fox News, Eastwood, who has been nominated for a best
director Oscar at this month's Academy Awards for World War Two movie
"Letters from Iwo Jima", said he was against the US-led 2003 invasion of
Iraq.

  The United States' goal of trying to impose democracy on Iraq was flawed,
the 76-year-old said.

  "I wasn't for going in there," Eastwood said. "Only because democracy
isn't something that you get overnight. I don't think America got democracy
overnight. It's something we had to fight for and believe in."

  While other Hollywood celebrities have been outspoken in their criticism
of Bush, Eastwood said he admired the US leader's tenacity.

  "I think -- you know, I kind of admire the tenacity he has," Eastwood
said.

  Asked how he though Bush would be remembered, Eastwood replied: "Well,
somebody who -- you've got to admire somebody who stands up for what they
believe regardless of how the polls go.

  "A lot of presidents do everything by the polls. They do a focus group
then all of a sudden they say OK, that's what I'm going to be for because
that's where focus group is leading me."

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information contained in the AFP News report may not be published,
broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of
Agence France Presse. 



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