[Grovenet] Open Door Policy (WAS: Habla English?)

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

That's a valid point of view all right, Ed. Should we restrict immigration
at all? Should our doors be open to any and all who arrive on our "shores"
so to speak? 

Note that my position against spending money to "accommodate"
non-English-speaking peoples except as needed to ensure they have access to
emergency services and other basics for any traveler visiting here does not
suggest that we cannot welcome all who want to come. It's just that those
who come and who cannot or will not learn English won't be able to fully
participate in our society as easily as those who do. 

That was true when the Statue was erected too. For those who didn't learn
English, it fell to their children who learned English in school (because
there were *no* special classes in Iris, German, Russian, etc.) to be the
family members equipped to fully understand all that went on. 

The reality is that most immigrants learned at least some English, enough to
get a job and get along, just as most immigrants do today.

So, Ed, is it your position that we should not restrict immigration? 

The biggest argument I hear against the idea is the fear that it'd have a
huge deleterious effect on the standard of living among those who live here
now.

Do you think that's true?

If so, is it important?

If so, what would we do about it?  

Ron D'Eau Claire 



-----Original Message-----
From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
Behalf Of Ed Davie
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 7:40 PM
To: Forest Grove local interests list
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Habla English?


Not even a little bit. I still believe in the 
inscription on the Statue of Liberty!
Ed
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steven
  To: Forest Grove local interests list
  Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Habla English?


  A large percentage of them are here illegally. 
Much larger than our
  English speaking illegal population.
  Doesn't that bother you?

  Allen Warren wrote:
  >
  > So what's the problem?
  >
  > Allen Warren
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----
  > From: Ron D'Eau Claire <rondec at easystreet.com>
  > To: Forest Grove local interests list 
<grovenet at rdrop.com>
  > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 4:12:19 PM
  > Subject: [Grovenet] Habla English?
  >
  >
  > I notice in the current City bill an 
Invitation to the Annual Community
  > Meeting. The invitation is in Spanish on one 
side.
  > Is that so our non-English, Spanish speaking 
citizens will know to
  > attend?
  >
  > So, will everything be translated for them at 
the meeting, or will the
  > meeting be held in Spanish?
  > If so, why?
  >
  > 
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