[Grovenet] [SPAM] Re: (no subject)

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

No apologies  needed.

The issue of who should not vote, if that is denied any citizen for any
reason, is a very serious, complex and contentious one. 

Still, I think our founding fathers had a point when they included certain
restrictions on who could vote. So I'm inclined to remind us all that it was
*not* inherent in our country that being a citizen gave one the right to
vote, and that, personally, I'm not sure it was a good idea to remove all
the restrictions. 

Ron D'Eau Claire 

-----Original Message-----
From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
Behalf Of Deena
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:01 PM
To: Forest Grove local interests list
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] [SPAM] Re: (no subject)


Ron,

I stand corrected. The Goddess Insomnia paid me a visit last night, 
and I'm still a bit sleep deprived, and fuzzy in my logic. My mother, 
the retired middle school social studies teacher, would be appalled. Argh.

Deena

At 07:38 PM 1/23/2007, you wrote:
>No, of course it's not a "poll tax". It's representation for those who 
>pay taxes. If you don't pay taxes, you don't vote.
>
>There's no charge for voting, nor is there any fee assessed for voting. 
>The underlying philosophy of our founding fathers to which I subscribe 
>is that someone must step up and  make an investment in the nation 
>before they have the right to vote. We've done away with that, and  I 
>think it's a mistake.
>
>Actually, in my view the most important part is having at least a 
>minimal education. That is, at least a High School diploma. Perhaps we 
>should extend the vote to those who have served honorably in the 
>military as well, regardless of education.
>
>Ron D'Eau Claire
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On 
>Behalf Of Deena
>Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:02 PM
>To: Grovenet
>Subject: [Grovenet] (no subject)
>
>
>Ron said: <snip>
>(1) Personally, I'd like to see the vote limited to those who have 
>completed High School, passed the same citizenship test anyone 
>immigrating passes, and who own property or who paid income taxes the 
>previous year.
>
>Ron, the second half of this sounds suspiciously like a poll tax. I'm 
>sure you don't mean that that way, since that was declared 
>unConstitutional.  How could you implement this (even with the or) and 
>not disenfranchise a fair segment of the senior community? Those who 
>are dependent on Social Security and who no longer own real property 
>come to mind.
>
>Deena
>
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