[Grovenet] Is VP Cheney Next?

Wed Mar 7 19:14:43 PST 2007

Al's comments need to be taken in context of the question and his full 
response.
In the heat of the moment, he could have described it better, but he 
wasn't taking control of the office of the president.

"Constitutionally, gentlemen, you have the president, the vice president 
and the secretary of state, in that order, and should the president 
decide he wants to transfer the helm to the vice president, he will do 
so. As for now, I'm in control here, in the White House, pending the 
return of the vice president and in close touch with him. If something 
came up, I would check with him, of course."

He was wrong in jumping over the leaders in the congress. He later 
explained.

"I wasn’t talking about transition. I was talking about the executive 
branch, who is running the government. That was the question asked. It 
was not, 'who is in line should the President die?"

Meredith Bliss wrote:
> Those thoughts clearly didn't do much for JFK ;-) Some of us thought his 
> choice for VP was good life insurance ... clearly we were wrong. It also 
> brings to mind Alexander Haig's response when Pres. Reagan was shot, in total 
> panic he sought to reassure the nation and in so doing displayed his total 
> ignorance of the line of succession. Ah, well, another bit of irrelevant 
> trivia.
>
> On Wednesday 07 March 2007 16:54, Allen Warren wrote:
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>> I apologize for not being clear in my response.
>>
>> I did understand the succession path when I wrote my response.  I was
>> trying to focus more on the hope and prayer that those considering starting
>> impeachment proceedings take that Long View of what the future might look
>> like with each of the potential successors in the Driver's seat.
>>
>> Allen Warren
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Ron D'Eau Claire <rondec at easystreet.com>
>> To: Forest Grove local interests list <grovenet at rdrop.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 4:41:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Is VP Cheney Next?
>>
>>
>> But the USA is not Iraq.
>>
>> Since the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, if they were removed as a
>> 'set' or if the President failed to appoint a VP before being removed,
>> Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi would take over. If something happened to
>> Ms. Pelosi, Senator Robert Byrd, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate is
>> next in line, followed by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. There are at
>> least another dozen people in line behind her should the worst happen, so
>> the idea that we'd be without a Chief Executive for the remainder of the
>> present term would require the most extreme situation imaginable.
>>
>> Ron D'Eau Claire
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
>> Behalf Of Allen Warren
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 4:25 PM
>> To: Forest Grove local interests list
>> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Is VP Cheney Next?
>>
>>
>> Personally, before I would consider thoughts of removing Cheney first and
>> possibly Bush second, I'd want to first review the scenarios of what would
>> happen & what could be plans for a change in both the President and
>> Vice-President.  It wasn't that long ago where a campaign was completed
>> that removed the leader of a certain country yet it became painfully
>> apparent very quickly the planning only focused on removal of that leader
>> and not the options/plans on what to do after the leader was removed from
>> power.  And yes, I'm talking about our current Administration only planning
>> for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein and not necessarily what to do after. 
>> Or at least it seems to me that's what was and was not planned.
>>
>> And I used to fall into the trap of focusing on the task or view at hand
>> until a wise former manager said one day, "have you considered what could
>> transpire after you complete that project campaign?"  He then peppered me
>> with question after question after question until I felt overwhelmed.  But
>> it did make me think.  And that's when this manager then handed me an
>> excellent book by Peter Schwartz titled "The Art of the Long View: Planning
>> for the Future in an Uncertain World".
>>
>> Feels like this is one of those times in History we could really use a
>> Visionary Leader in Government.
>>
>> Allen Warren
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Ron D'Eau Claire <rondec at easystreet.com>
>> To: Forest Grove local interests list <grovenet at rdrop.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 3:27:19 PM
>> Subject: [Grovenet] Is VP Cheney Next?
>>
>>
>> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House offered support on Wednesday for
>> Vice President Dick Cheney, a powerful proponent of the Iraq war, after the
>> conviction of his top aide dealt a fresh blow to Cheney's political
>> reputation and raised new questions about his influence.
>>
>> The trial of Lewis "Scooter" Libby showed Cheney, often portrayed by
>> critics as the shadowy Darth Vader behind the war in Iraq, was deeply
>> involved in an effort to discredit a critic of the administration's prewar
>> intelligence.
>>
>> Libby's conviction on perjury and obstruction of justice charges placed
>> Cheney squarely in the center of a new political storm....
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070307/ts_nm/usa_cheney_dc_1
>>
>> --------------------
>>
>> If VP Cheney were to fall, I'd hope to see the President next.
>>
>> As a strong proponent for fixing our mess in Iraq, I have to ask myself if
>> I'd support impeaching the VP and President if it meant a hasty troop
>> pullout leaving Iraq to the insurgents.
>>
>> I think I would. Hopefully we could return to the idea of helping Iraq
>> recover once we had a trustworthy, functioning executive branch in the USA
>> again, but it seems to me that anything we do right now will be only what
>> we do right by accident.
>>
>> That's not good enough by far.
>>
>> Ron D'Eau Claire
>>
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