[Grovenet] Select a Candidate 2008

Tue Nov 6 11:26:29 PST 2007

That's why I think the idea of everyone serving in the House, at least, was
a good idea. The members of the House are the true 'representatives of the
people' based on population. 

And Washington is FULL of competent advisors in all of the various areas
from internal to foreign. What's needed is an honest person to sit down with
some real basic principles of citizenship - principles we ought to be
instilling in every school child -  to sort out the crooks from the
competent. 

It's that basic "figure it out and get it done" attitude that made me a huge
fan of "Give 'em Hell Harry" Truman as I grew to understand him over the
years. He was an ordinary farmer and haberdasher from Missouri. (Strike
"ordinary". He was an American farmer and haberdasher in all the ways I
think America is great.)

How much more "basic" can you get than someone who plows the earth and sells
men's clothing and accessories? 

Ron D'Eau Claire 

-----Original Message-----
From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
Behalf Of Allen Warren
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:46 AM
To: Forest Grove local interests list
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Select a Candidate 2008

In all seriousness, as a lay person, I wouldn't even *BEGIN* to know how to
be a successful President.  And if you think we got problems now, hoo BOY
would we have problems with an experienced pup like myself attempting to be
President.

Work with Congress?  Where would I begin?  Foreign Policy?  I'd be a
stuttering idiot attempting to either talk with or apply diplomacy.

About the only thing I'd have going for me other than my honesty and having
never accepted outside interest money is all you fine folks here on Grovenet
providing thoughtful, knowledgeable and balanced advice.  And I say that
with the utmost respect for all I read here on Grovenet.  All of you provide
some of the most honest, passionate and varied discourse on a wide array of
both domestic and world issues.

Hmmm . . . yet again another reason why it might be good for an ordinary
person to run . . . 

Allen Warren

----- Original Message ----
From: Ron D'Eau Claire <ron at cobi.biz>
To: Forest Grove local interests list <grovenet at rdrop.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 10:02:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Select a Candidate 2008

Heh, heh... Go for it! America might become the land of the people, by the
people and for the people yet! 

"Mr. Smith" might make it to Washington yet someday (ancient James Stewart
film known only to curmudgeons, James Stewart fans and students of the
silver screen, but one I think every American child ought to know). 

Back in the 1960's there was serious discussion in some circles that we
should not elect Congressmen and women, and perhaps not even Senators or the
President. Instead, ordinary American citizens would be drafted by lottery
to fill those jobs for a period of 2 to 4 years. It still sounds like a good
idea to me, at least for the House. The thinking was a lot like that about
the military draft. All dangerous, onerous and unsavory jobs ought to be
shared by all, including service in Washington. The result would be a
citizenry who has some understanding of what was going on in Washington and
compassion for the poor souls serving there.

Actually I mis-spoke (or mistyped): It's TWO-thirds of the voters, more than
2 out of three, who are;

1) Fed up with the Republicans

2) Fed up with the Democrats

3) Think our economy is going to crash.

That leaves, at best, 1/3 of the voters to carry the old time political
party banners into 2008. 

Ron D'Eau Claire 

-----Original Message-----
From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
Behalf Of Allen Warren
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:00 AM
To: Forest Grove local interests list
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Select a Candidate 2008

"The one thing angry, frustrated, worried voters are not likely to do is
make any sort of rational choice based on facts."

Hmmm . . . maybe my idea to declare as a candidate isn't so far-fetched
after all.  Hmmm . . . 
:-)

Allen Warren

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