[Grovenet] Big changes coming on separation of church and state . ..

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

That's how the Muslim states work, why not us? 
 
We will have separated church and state the day an atheist candidate wins
the Presidency. 
 
Thinking about your reference to JFK, the issue wasn't that he was
Christian, but all about whether he was the *right sort* of "Christian" to
lead the USA. It seems to me the Muslims have that problem too. 
 
Ron D'Eau Claire 
 

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From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:59 AM
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Subject: [Grovenet] Big changes coming on separation of church and state .
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Boy, we have come a long way since John Kennedy!! Also makes me wonder if
this will put their IRS exemption in jeopardy??

bob "WWJD when voting??" browning



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By RACHEL ZOLL, AP Religion WriterWed Nov 14, 10:54 AM ET 

Roman Catholics voting in the 2008 elections must heed church teaching when
deciding which candidates and policies to support, U.S. bishops said
Wednesday.

And while the church recognizes the importance of a wide range of issues -
from war to immigration to poverty - fighting abortion should be a priority,
the bishops said.

"The direct and intentional destruction of innocent human life is always
wrong and is not just one issue among many," the bishops said.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops overwhelmingly adopted the
statement, "Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship," as they ended the
public sessions of their fall meeting.

The document does not recommend specific laws or candidates, and it
emphasizes that "principled debate" is needed to decide which policies best
promote the common good.

But "that does not make (moral issues) optional concerns or permit Catholics
to dismiss or ignore church teaching," the bishops said.

American bishops have been releasing similar recommendations for Catholics
before every presidential election since 1976. However, in recent years,
some independent Catholics groups have been distributing their own voter
booklets.

Among them are Priests for Life and California-based Catholic Answers, which
distributed material on five "nonnegotiable" issues: abortion, euthanasia,
embryonic stem cell research, human cloning and same-sex marriage. Catholics
in Alliance for the Common Good, which formed last year, issued a guide
emphasizing church teachings on war, poverty and social justice.

But the bishops urged Catholics to only use voter resources approved by the
church.

The document makes clear the broad concerns in Catholic teaching that make
it difficult for parishioners to feel fully comfortable with either the
Democrats or Republicans.

The bishops say helping the poor should be a top priority in government,
providing health care, taking in refugees and protecting the rights of
workers, and the bishops highlight the need for environmental protection.

However, they also oppose same-sex marriage, euthanasia and embryonic stem
cell research, in addition to their staunch anti-abortion position.

The prelates say torture is "always wrong" and they express "serious moral
concerns" about "preventive use of military force." But at the last minute
Wednesday, they added a sentence acknowledging "the continuing threat of
fanatical extremism and global terror."

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