[Grovenet] Carbon Credit.

Ed Davie edavie at verizon.net
Mon Oct 29 14:11:52 PDT 2007


Katie, this is so good! Wish I was capable of such 
appropriate writing.
Ed
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Katie Allnutt
  To: Forest Grove local interests list
  Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Carbon Credit.


  Ooohhhh. Is this supposed to scare us just 
before Halloween?
  At our house we have switched our light bulbs 
for compact fluorescent
  ones and installed a programmable thermostat. 
Guess what? We are
  saving money.  Poor us for paying attention to 
Al Gore.
  Not to mention the asthmatics who are benefited 
from lower
  particulate levels in the air.

  And so what if Gore started this 'before the 
science reports were
  written'. Gore has been studying global warming 
since the '80's and
  before.  The more accurate way to look at this 
is to say he waited
  too long rather than to claim he jumped the gun.

  Sure Al could do more to reduce his carbon 
footprint. So can we all.
  He is not the hypocrite in all this blah blah 
blah, back and forth
  over global warming.  The Bill Hobbs of the 
world claim that fixing
  global warming will harm the economy but 
complain when Al Gore might
  be making investments and helping the economy on 
global warming issues.

  Do you remember when the Cuyahoga River was so 
polluted it caught on
  fire? Before that all the industrialists were 
saying pollution would
  take care of itself and they had no 
responsibility to do anything
  about it.  The generation that cleaned up the 
river looked back on
  the old polluters with less than admiration. 
They bit the bullet and
  put the regulations in place to fix the problem. 
It takes a long time
  and hard work to undo such damage.  But you have 
to start somewhere.
  Heck, even WalMart is trying to go green.

  Al Gore's grandkids won't be ashamed of what he 
tried to do in his
  lifetime.  I have some doubts about Bill Hobbs' 
grandkids.

  Katie

  PS A couple of claims of $10 thousand in under 
investigated campaign
  contributions pale in comparison to the millions 
and billions that go
  uninvestigated or obstructed in problems with 
today's no bid
  contracts and Duke Cunningham exploits. 
Somebody has a problem with
  orders of magnitude. Maybe that is where the 
order to remove the
  entire tree trunk from your own eye before you 
go pointing out the
  sliver in someone else's comes from.



  On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Steven wrote:

  > http://tinyurl.com/36nsko
  > Al Gore's Inconvenient Loot
  > Former Vice President Al Gore has built a 
Green money-making
  > machine capable
  > of eventually generating billions of dollars 
for investors, including
  > himself, but he set it up so that the average 
Joe can't afford to
  > play on
  > Gore's terms. And the US portion is headed up 
by a former Gore
  > staffer and
  > fund raiser who previously ran afoul of both 
the FEC and the DOJ,
  > before
  > Janet Reno jumped in and shut down an 
investigation during the Clinton
  > years.
  >
  > As Bill Hobbs first pointed out, Gore 
supposedly pays for his extra-
  > large
  > carbon footprint through Generation Investment 
Management (GIM) -
  > and if
  > you're looking to go green, and have your 
wallet go along with
  > Gore, think
  > again - average people are too insignificant 
to play - verifiable
  > from this
  > pdf.
  >
  > Generation is based in London, with its U.S. 
offices in Washington,
  > DC. The
  > firm will manage the assets of institutional 
investors such as pension
  > funds, foundations and endowments, as well as 
those of select high
  > net worth
  > individuals.* Generation expects to make 
extensive use of long-term
  > performance based fees. Generation will begin 
its investment
  > management
  > business in early 2005.
  >
  > * like Al Gore
  >
  > Gore's company, GIM was specifically 
established to take financial
  > advantage
  > of new technologies and solutions related to 
combating Global
  > Warming. The
  > Global Warming crowd has told us that just 
recently new science
  > emerged
  > confirming the alleged fact that Global 
Warming is man made. So, ask
  > yourself, why is it that Gore set up his Green 
money machine three
  > years ago
  > back in 2004? Is it possible Gore knew what 
the science would say
  > before it
  > was out? And even if not, can an individual 
who stands to make
  > millions from
  > Global Warming really be trusted as an honest 
broker on that topic?
  > Talk
  > about giving the fox the keys to the hen 
penthouse.
  >
  > Even if Global Warming did exist, in 
principle, what's the difference
  > between war profiteering and this? One could 
justifiably argue that
  > Gore is
  > taking advantage of, in his opinion, a 
catastrophic situation to
  > clean up -
  > and I don't mean the environment.
  >
  >
  > Here's a list indicating what it takes to make 
money along with Al.
  > Funds
  > associated with these companies have placed 
millions of dollars
  > under Al
  > Gore's control. And, as you'll see below, 
Gore's selection for the US
  > President of GIM might raise a few eyebrows as 
well.
  >
  > AFLAC INC - AQUANTIVE INC - AUTODESK INC - 
BECTON DICKINSON & CO
  > BLACKBAUD
  > INC - GENERAL ELECTRIC CO - GREENHILL & CO 
INC - JOHNSON CTLS INC -
  > LABORATORY CORP AMER HLDGS - METABOLIX INC - 
NORTHERN TR CORP -
  > NUVEEN INVTS
  > INC -STAPLES INC - SYSCO CORP - TECHNE CORP - 
UBS AG - VCA ANTECH
  > INC -
  > WATERS CORP - WHOLE FOODS MKT INC
  >
  > According to their own documents, GIM intends 
to invest in, or buy
  > companies
  > poised to cash in on Global Warming concerns. 
If we borrow John
  > Edward's
  > so-called two Americas concept for a second, 
this all means higher
  > prices
  > and taxes with more regulation and an altered 
standard of living
  > for people
  > like you and me, while Al Gore sits ensconced 
in his other America
  > reaping
  > profits from each new government mandate for 
us, business and even
  > government itself. It's win win, alright, but 
mostly for Al.
  >
  > To add insult to injury, Gore chose Peter S. 
Knight, an old friend and
  > colleague some are sure to recall, as the US 
President of GIM.
  >
  > Peter S. Knight, formerly Managing Director 
Met West Financial,
  > lawyer,
  > Chief of Staff for Senator Al Gore (D-TN) from 
1977-1989, and Campaign
  > Manager for President Clinton's successful 
re-election in 1996, is
  > President
  > of Generation U.S.
  >
  > This would be him:   Reno Rejects Inquiry Into 
a Clinton Aide
  >
  > Atty Gen Janet Reno decides against any 
further investigation of Peter
  > Knight, Pres Clinton's 1996 campaign manager 
in connection with office
  > building development in nation's capital; such 
an investigation
  > could have
  > led to naming independent counsel to look 
further into activities
  > of Knight,
  > who is also former top assistant to Vice Pres 
Al Gore.
  >
  > Yes, thanks to Janet Reno, no one ever found 
out how $20,000 in
  > stock turned
  > up in an account for Knight's then 13 year old 
child.
  >
  > Dispute over Democratic Party 
campaign-financing shifts to Zachary
  > Knight,
  > 13-year-old son of Peter S Knight, 
Clinton-Gore campaign chairman
  > in 1996,
  > who was given $20,000 in stock by William 
Haney 3d, chairman of
  > Molten Metal
  > Technology Inc; Republicans believe gift, 
which came after father
  > was named
  > chairman of campaign, was really payment to 
Knight, who had worked as
  > $7,000-per-month lobbyist for company; Knight 
denies involvement in
  > any
  > impropriety; photo
  >
  > If Gore's motivation in pushing Global Warming 
is so altruistic,
  > was it
  > really necessarily for the already wealthy 
Gore to establish a
  > multi-million
  > dollar corporation in England to cash in? And 
given the history of
  > Gore and
  > Knight, are these people we should trust to 
drive a re-vamping of
  > the world
  > economy at the same time they're lining their 
pockets because of
  > our much
  > smaller carbon footprints?
  >
  > If Al Gore is successful with this latest 
scheme, Gore and his
  > cronies are
  > going to be much more $green$ than most of the 
earth. And the only
  > green in
  > this for you and me is the kind that 
accompanies envy as Gore
  > trucks around
  > on private jets putting dollars to offset his 
extravagance into a cash
  > machine generating profits on the backs of the 
middle class with
  > misrepresented science that doesn't deserve to 
be called science at
  > all.
  >
  > Mr. Gore starts out, ironically enough, 
asserting the importance of
  > peer-reviewed science. I call this ironic 
because the
  > misrepresentation that
  > follows (a) hasn’t been peer reviewed, and (b) 
the peer-reviewed
  > literature
  > contradicts the misrepresentation.
  >
  >> From the Center For Public Integrity: one of 
the issues involving
  >> both
  > Knight and carbon friendly Al was the 
installation of a hot tub and
  > steam
  > shower in the Master Bedroom of the VP's 
house. How Green is that?
  >
  > Here's what the Center found about some of the 
most generous
  > contributors to
  > the foundation: Peter S. Knight...
  >
  > Peter S. Knight, Gore's former chief of staff, 
managed Gore's first
  > bid for
  > the presidency in 1988. In 1989, he began 
lobbying for the firm
  > Wunder,
  > Diefendorfer, Cannon and Thelan. Given his 
closeness to Gore and
  > the rest of
  > the Clinton administration, corporations now 
pay Knight upward of
  > $10,000 a
  > month to wield his influence with Gore. With 
the help of his new
  > clients,
  > Knight soon cemented a new role for himself as 
Gore's "chief of fund
  > raising."
  >
  > Since 1996, Knight's various lobbying and 
fund-raising activity has
  > been the
  > subject of a Federal Election Commission 
investigation, a Justice
  > Department
  > inquiry and two House Commerce Committee 
probes.
  >
  > Gore chose Knight to act as chairman of the 
foundation during
  > Gore's first
  > vice presidential term. Three of Knight's 
clients - millionaire
  > publishing
  > magnate Vance Opperman, Bell Atlantic and 
Fluor Corporation —
  > showered the
  > foundation with $10,000 each.
  >
  > Knight also solicited $10,000 contributions 
from foundations run by
  > Atlantic
  > Richfield Company (ARCO), Coca-Cola Company, 
MCI Communications
  > (now MCI
  > WorldCom, Inc.), Time Warner Inc. and 
Microsoft Corporation
  > (Chairman Bill
  > Gates also contributed a $30,000 glass 
sculpture). Under Gore's
  > supervision,
  > the foundation pledged to take corporate money 
only through their
  > foundations, not from corporations directly. 
The $10,000 paid by the
  > Coca-Cola Company, however, came out of the 
corporate account.
  >
  > 
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