[Grovenet] The law

Steven NoSpam03 at comcast.net
Wed Apr 2 19:53:29 PDT 2008


Federal laws and the constitution affect citizens of the US. Unless Mr. Al
Kahad is a citizen, how would the laws apply at all?

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> Behalf Of Steele, Mike
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> News reports today offer the following little tidbit:   "The Justice
> Department
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/U.S.+Department+of+Just
> ice?tid=informline>  sent a legal memorandum to the Pentagon
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/The+Pentagon?tid=inform
> line>  in 2003 asserting that federal laws prohibiting assault, maiming
> and other crimes did not apply to military interrogators who questioned
> al-Qaeda
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Al+Qaeda?tid=informline
> >  captives because the president's ultimate authority as commander in
> chief overrode such statutes."
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> Hmmmm...but here's the standard military enlistment oath for enlisted
> personnel and officers:  "I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I
> will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against
> all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and
> allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President
> of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me,
> according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So
> help me God."
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> Hmmm...let me see...the constitution comes first in line...the president
> only later...and the Uniform Code of Military Justice does not permit
> torture (waterboarding having been a prosecutable war crime in US
> charges against Japanese war criminals)...
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> One wonders if this created an allegiance issue for those who received
> the memorandum?
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> --Mike
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