[Grovenet] Grovenet administration settings part 3

Ed Davie edavie at verizon.net
Fri Feb 8 09:21:31 PST 2008


AS one of the complainers, let me just say that I 
am satisfied now, with the logic of your 
explanations
Thanks,
Ed
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris Genly
  To: grovenet at rdrop.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:09 PM
  Subject: [Grovenet] Grovenet administration 
settings part 3



  There is a message size limit of 300KB.  That's 
pretty big.  Not big
  enough for large pictures or a large number of 
pictures in one message,
  and not large enough for movies.  The size has 
been increased a number
  of times due to complaints.  Generally it's not 
considered polite to
  send large mail messages.  If you send a funny 
email to the list with 20
  large images, there may only be a fraction of 
the currently 137 members
  that are interested in looking at the pictures. 
But in any case, that
  mail will be copied by the grovenet list server 
and sent out 137 times.
  It's a huge waste of email bandwidth, which is 
already under pressure
  because of spam abuse.  It is generally better 
to send a URL to the
  material you want to share.  URLs are small, and 
those interested can
  pull the content for viewing.   If someone has a 
dial-up link they will
  be forced to wait for large messages to be 
downloaded regardless of
  whether or not they are interested in the 
material.   And lastly it puts
  a larger demand on the the servers archiving 
grovenet.  URLs are
  sometimes long and get mangled by email 
programs.  Some people use
  tinyurl.com to turn a big url in to a really 
short one that survives
  email mangling.

  That said, the message size limit is under 
control of the
  administrators.  If the list can come to some 
consensus on a new limit
  Bud or I would change it.  I don't know what 
consensus means.  Could we
  come to a consensus on that? :-)   I'd want a 
lot more than the top five
  posters to come to an agreement.  20 maybe?

  Messages over size are not just discarded.  They 
are held for approval
  or rejection by the administrators.  I rarely 
approve an oversize
  message for the reasons stated above.  Bud may 
have a totally different
  approach.  Also, messages held for approval are 
not attended to right
  away.  Depending on my workload it might be the 
same day, but it might
  be a week later.  But then again, Bud might 
attend to it before I do.
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