[Grovenet] An interesting view of a legacy . . .

Ed Davie edavie at verizon.net
Sun Feb 10 13:52:09 PST 2008


Well said, Walt!
Ed
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Walt Wentz
  To: Forest Grove local interests list
  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [Grovenet] An interesting view of a 
legacy . . .


  Steve:
  For "substantive content," one has only to look 
at the current news.
  Ordinary working Americans are losing jobs, 
savings and hope; the
  phrase "living income" has apparently become an 
obscenity, never to
  be spoken in the circles of power; The 
super-rich, and those
  "artificial persons" known as corporations, have 
come to monopolize
  the vast majority of the nation's wealth, and 
that percentage is
  increasing every day, with the active connivance 
and assistance of
  the present administration (read: "permanent tax 
cuts;") while the
  sons and daughters of  our working poor (which 
will soon mean most of
  us, given current trends), having no other hope 
of ever improving
  their lot through higher education, are 
enlisting in an apparently
  endless war, hoping that they will emerge from 
service alive and with
  brains undamaged for the sake of the mere 
pittance for "educational
  assistance" which has replaced the old G.I. Bill 
that made our
  country great.
  Substantive content? Our supposedly 
"conservative" government, far
  from maintaining its cherished old "existing 
views, conditions or
  institutions" regarding small government, fiscal 
responsibility and
  noninterference, has been borrowing and spending 
like a drunken
  sailor, building up a national debt which will 
crush our descendants
  for generations to come. The future of our 
economy is now at the
  mercy of foreign governments which have to real 
reason to wish us
  well... China, Saudi Arabia, other nations who 
hold trillions in US
  dollars in their national treasuries, and who 
could  collapse the
  American  economy like a house of cards merely 
by releasing a flood
  of those dollars on the international market.
  Substantive content? Osama bin Laden is still 
alive, free and
  inspiring another generation of jihadists, six 
years after our
  present administration swore vengeance and swift 
victory;
  Afghanistan, which was supposed to become a free 
and law-abiding
  nation,has instead produced all-time record 
crops of opium last year,
  resulting an actual over-supply of heroin for 
the world's crime
  syndicates and drug addicts, while the Taliban 
are back, striking
  down agents of change and their own people 
apparently at will, while
  their own casualties are replaced by more 
jihadists flowing through
  the lawless tribal areas of our supposedly brave 
and loyal ally,
  Pakistan. Despite all the encouraging propaganda 
from our
  administration, one has only to read the news 
from the BBC and other
  foreign services to realize Afghanistan is 
rapidly becoming a "failed
  state," a chaotic collection of drug fiefdoms 
and mutually hostile
  tribes, sects and clans, ruled by brutal 
warlords and Taliban
  zealots-- all this because our present 
administration decided to
  divide our forces for a fraudulent and utterly 
irrational invasion of
  Iraq, a nation that had been so badly defeated 
and disrupted it could
  not defend its own borders against its own 
neighbors, let alone the
  US Army.
  More than five years after "Mission 
Accomplished," we are still
  there... pushing a determined and resilient 
"insurgency" from one
  part of the country to another but never 
actually defeating it, while
  the weak puppet government we installed engages 
in endless mutual
  backstabbing and thievery, and billions of 
American reconstruction
  dollars continue to flow into a bottomless black 
hole of corruption,
  and both Iraqis and Americans continue to die--  
despite the
  triumphant announcements when "fewer" die  in a 
given month than in
  another.
  Substantive content? (Expletive deleted!) The 
world is echoing with
  "substantive content," while our supposedly 
"conservative"
  administration continues to mouth political 
slogans, tries to
  distract us with "God, guns and gays" and 
attempts to scapegoat those
  problems they cannot ignore or deny onto illegal 
immigrants-- that
  is, the economic refugees fleeing the 
devastation wrought by our own
  "free-trade" agreements with their home 
countries.
  Sorry if I seem angry and overheated. I am 
ordinarily of an
  idealistic and optimistic nature, but the 
"substantive content" of
  our present situation would be enough to 
infuriate a statue.
  Walt



  >Walt,
  >
  >
  >And , likewise, liberal propogandization has 
changed the definition of
  >conservative from " tending or disposed to 
maintain existing views,
  >conditions, or institutions,  marked by 
moderation or caution"  to
  >   " reactionaries, bigots, chickenhawks and 
the assorted other frauds and
  >fakers. "
  >
  >I wish both sides would just grow up and limit 
discussions to substantive
  >content.
  >
  >
  >Steve
  >
  >
  >----- Original Message -----
  >From: "Walt Wentz" <waltw at teleport.com>
  >To: "Forest Grove local interests list" 
<grovenet at rdrop.com>
  >Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 9:51 PM
  >Subject: Re: [Grovenet] An interesting view of 
a legacy . . .
  >
  >
  >>  >Walt,
  >>>
  >>>So, you are saying that " reactionaries, 
bigots, chickenhawks and the
  >>>assorted other frauds and fakers " are 
exclusively conservative?
  >>
  >>  Nope. Only that suchlike have hijacked the 
"conservative" label.
  >>  Meanwhile, through 30 years of sustained 
propagandizing, they have
  >>  managed to change the label of "liberal" 
from its dictionary
  >>  definition of "generous, tolerant, free," to 
"crazy criminal-coddling
  >>  commie-lovin' tax-and-spend treasonous 
sinners."
  >> 
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