[Grovenet] An interesting view of a legacy . . .

[Walt Wentz]

Career Republicans will support the big donors to the Republican 
party over their constituents, and career Democrats will support the 
Democratic party's big donors over their constituency. "Money talks" 
was the old adage, but "money dictates" applies now. "Earmarks" are, 
at best, simply a means of evading long-winded obstructionism by an 
opposition party, or at worst a means of buying votes or repaying 
political favors.
We CANNOT continue blindly following party labels, because the 
parties are following the money. Bigots, neocons, reactionaries, etc. 
are generally just serving their financial backers, while also 
playing to a tight-knit block of dependable, sheep-like voters on the 
far right-- and most of those, predictably, support the present-day 
Republican party (which is not the "Party of Lincoln" by the wildest 
stretch of imagination).
If there was a tight-knit block of "liberal" voters, no doubt the 
Democrats would have controlled the government ever since FDR died. 
But there is not, and there never will be. Liberals have too many 
divergent interests and ideals.


>Are you fine with neocons, reactionaries, bigots,
>chickenhawks and the assorted other frauds and fakers who have hijacked the
>progressive label?
>Under democrat control, congress has continued their earmarks wholesale.
>(I'm assuming all your adjectives are meant for politicians, rather than be
>bigoted enough to spread it to every one you disagree with.)
>
>If conserving the accomplishments of the past is a good idea, why do we need
>to change it so much?

Note, "accomplishments" implies progress, improvements, goals set and attained.
Shall we go back to slavery, which was the "accomplishment" of the 
Stone Age? How about that good ol' time religion, which requires the 
stoning of witches, gays, disbelievers and insolent children, and was 
the "accomplishment" of the Bronze Age? How about the American Gilded 
Age of the 1890s, when the Robber Barons were buying up US 
legislators wholesale, government agencies were perverted to do the 
bidding of political overlords, corrupt private businesses were 
looting the public treasuries and any little foreign nation which 
resisted the incursions of American big business was subject to 
invasion and conquest?
(Hmmm, hey, wait a minute... that sounds strangely similar to today...)


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>-----Original Message-----
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>Behalf Of Walt Wentz
>Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:27 PM
>To: Forest Grove local interests list
>Subject: Re: [Grovenet] An interesting view of a legacy . . .
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>>Walt,
>>
>>
>>Welcome to Grovenet.
>>
>>You are going to fit right in.
>>
>>Name calling and disparaging, immature remarks directed to Conservatives
>are
>>not only accepted but encouraged here!
>>
>>Steve
>
>Hi Steve:
>Well, I've got no problem with real conservatives-- that is, people
>who want to "conserve" the great accomplishments of the past.
>However, I'm not at all fond of neocons, reactionaries, bigots,
>chickenhawks and the assorted other frauds and fakers who have
>hijacked the conservative label, and who obsessively destroy the
>great accomplishments of our past for the sake of a little transient
>power for themselves, and added profits for their corporate sponsors.
>Since ridicule is the only real weapon we mere common folk have
>against these hi-falutin' looters, then let the slapstick swing and
>the brickbats fly!
>Walt
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