[Grovenet] ear mark this!

[Walt Wentz]

Have you critically read the good General's remarks, and those of 
others advocating these "English-only" measures? Granted, 
"chauvinistic, xenophobic, tribal and paranoid" might be more 
high-toned words for me to use, but I'll stick with the popular 
usage. If we really want to defend the English language, then we've 
got to make it more accessible, and hence more widely used-- not try 
to "protect" it with impracticable "exclusion" laws.
We snicker at the French because they have an official agency 
dedicated to combating "alien" words like "hamburger," that would 
dare defile the virgin purity of their native language.  Well? Since 
English imports and assimilates foreign words on a wholesale basis, 
would our "official" English also be frozen at an "approved" 
vocabulary-- dating from, say, 1950?
WW

>Walt,
>
>Shallow, mean spirited, xenophobic. All labels that you are indiscriminately
>attaching to a gruop of people. Sounds like bigotry to me.
>
>Steve
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Walt Wentz" <waltw at teleport.com>
>To: "Forest Grove local interests list" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
>Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 1:37 PM
>Subject: Re: [Grovenet] ear mark this!
>
>
>>  Maybe try re-casting the argument as follows:
>>  "33 Senators voted against the essentially meaningless attempt to
>>  denigrate and discriminate against persons who still speak the
>>  language of their land of birth--and who would probably begin
>>  speaking English if adequate teaching programs were made available by
>>  our government, instead of these shallow and mean-spirited appeals to
>>  xenophobia."
>>  Walt
>>
>>>I did not snoop this, nor do I plan to. However knowing the grove folks
>>>as I do .. someone will...
>>>
>>>33 Senators Voted Against English as America's Official Language
>>>On June 6, 2007, 33 Senators Voted Against English as America's Official
>>>Language. On Wed. 6 June 2007, 23:35:23-0500, Colonel Harry Riley , USA
>>>, Ret. wrote:
>>>
>>>Senators:
>>>
>>>Your vote against an amendment to the Immigration Bill 1348 to make
>>>English America 's official language is astounding. On D-Day, no less,
>>>when we honor those that sacrificed in order to secure the bedrock,
>>>character and principles of America , I can only surmise your vote
>>>reflects a loyalty to illegal aliens. I don't much care where you come
>>>from. What your religion is. Whether you're black, white, or some other
>>>color......male or female......Democrat, Republican or
>>>Independent....... But I do care when you are a United States Senator
>>>representing Citizens of America .......and vote against English as the
>>>official language of the United States .
>>>
>>>Your vote reflects Betrayal. Political Surrender. Violates Your Pledge
>>>of Allegiance. Dishonors historical principle. Rejects Patriotism.
>>>Borders on traitorous action and, in my opinion, makes you unfit to
>>>serve as a United States Senator........
>>>Impeachment.......Recall........Or other appropriate action is warranted
>>>or worse.
>>>
>>>Four of you voting against English as America 's Official Language are
>>>Presidential Candidates: Senator Biden, Senator Clinton, Senator Dodd,
>>>and Senator Obama. Four Senators vying to lead America, but won't or
>>>don't have the courage to cast a vote in favor of "English" as America's
>>>Official Language when 91% of American Citizens want English officially
>>>designated as our language. This is the second time in the last several
>>>months this list of Senators have disgraced themselves as "political
>>>hacks"...... Unworthy as Senators and certainly unqualified to serve as
>>>President of the United States . If America is as angry as I am, you
>>>will realize a backlash so stunning it will literally "rock you out of
>>>your panties"......... and preferably totally out of the United States
>>>Senate. The entire immigration bill is a farce.... your action only
>>>confirms this really isn't about America .....it is about self-serving
>>>politics.....despicable at best. It has been said: "Never Argue with an
>  >>Idiot.... They'll drag you down to their level!" The following Senators
>>>voted against making English the official language of America :
>>>
>>>Akaka (D-HI)
>>>Bayh (D-IN)
>>>Biden (D-DE) Wants to be President?
>>>Bingaman (D-NM)
>>>Boxer (D-CA)
>>>Cantwell (D-WA)
>>>Clinton (D-NY) Wants to be President? (GOD FORBID!)
>>>Dayton (D-MN)
>>>Dodd (D- MN) wants to be president
>>>Domenici ( R-NM) coward. protecting his senate seat
>>>Durbin (D-IL)
>>>Feingold (D-WI) - not unusual for him
>>>Feinstein (D-CA)
>>>Harkin (D-IA)
>>>Inouye (D-HI)
>>>Jeffords (L-VT)
>>>Kennedy - (D-MA)
>>>Kerry (D-MA) wanted to be president
>>>kohl (D-WI))
>>>Lautenberg (D-NJ)
>>>Leahy (D-VT)
>>>Levin (D-MI)
>>>Lieberman (D-CT) Disappointment here.....
>>>Menendez (D-NJ)
>>>Mikulski (D-MD)
>>>Murray (D-WA)
>>>Obama (D-IL) Wants to be President? GOD FORBID!
>>>Reed (D-RI)
>>>Reid (D-NV) Senate Majority Leader
>>>Salazar (D-CO)
>>>Sarbanes (D-MD)
>>>Schumer (D-NY)
>>>Stabenow (D-M
>>>
>>>"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
>>>morale, and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested,
>>>exiled or hanged!!! President Abraham Lincoln
>>>
>>>Every potential voter should be aware of this! Please circulate this
>>>TILL THE ELECTION in November 2008.
>>>
>>>
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