[Grovenet] MACs for Christmas

[David Morelli]

On Jan 2, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Jeff Howden wrote:

> David,
>
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>> From: David Morelli [mailto:jo.david at verizon.net]
>>
>> [...] The Safari browser and Mail client work securely, except  
>> when they have problem with non W3 standard servers (MS). [...]
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> As this falls squarely in my territory, I have to add some  
> clarification.  The servers themselves aren't what are causing your  
> problems.  Put differently, it doesn't matter that the server that  
> you're getting your webpages from is a Microsoft server or  
> something else.  What matters is whether or not the web developer  
> spent the time to make sure what he/she was building works  
> correctly (enough) for Safari.  ...

Yes, I could have phrased it better.  My emphasis is on the "non W3  
standard" not on the server.  If the developer has made their product  
W3 compliant, then I expect it should work on my Safari or my  
Firefox.  The problem sites were generally configured for non- 
standard browsers, which included IE for a long time.  I don't know  
if it still does, because IE isn't on my list of browsers anymore.   
If I need a browser on the PC at work I use Firefox, and there is no  
IE for Mac anymore.

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>> [...] In fact my biggest software gripe is the absence of a free  
>> Macintosh version of Access database.
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> Probably *seriously* over-powered for basic, every-day use, but  
> MySQL [1] and PostgreSQL [2] will (probably) both run on your Mac.   
> If you haven't already, you might give EagleData [3] a try.
>
> [1] http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/5.0.html
> [2] http://www.postgresql.org/
> [3] http://www.eaglesoft.de/eagle/eagledata.html

MySQL did run on the machine, and NeoOffice has a database.  For the  
quick and dirty projects I would prefer the ease of the Access  
interface since it was very good at "on the fly" changes to tables  
and queries.  I see it as the best product Microsoft created ( and  
possibly one of the few they did in house)  I hadn't heard of  
eagledata, maybe they do a good interface.
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>> Maybe my general satisfaction is related to the fact that I don't  
>> do computer games?  That really seems to be a big draw for PC  
>> machines.
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> I don't play games on my computer; that's what consoles are for.   
> The first few years of computer experience were all on Macs.   
> Somewhere along the line I got fed up with them and haven't looked  
> back since.  To this day, I still find lots of things about them  
> that annoy me.
>
Yes, like, I wonder when Mac  will have resizing on all four sides of  
a window?
>
>
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