[Grovenet] MACs for Christmas

[Geri]

Chuck, my 2-cents-worth:

I have used both Mac & Windows for twelve years
here at home.  As a non-techie, which is what *most*
folks are, I agree with you that Mac is w-a-y less
trouble!

Geri

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "chuck" <chuck at grovenet.net>
To: <jeff at jeffhowden.com>; "Forest Grove local interests list" <grovenet at rdrop.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] MACs for Christmas


> 
>>
>> A truly trouble-free computer for the average non-technical computer user
>> does not exist.  All proponents of non-MS operating systems have been
>> pushing this mantra constantly, but it's a logical fallacy.
>>
>>   
> In your opinion. 
> 
> My Linux machine is trouble free.  My opinion.  
> 
> I'm sure David can say the same with his Mac, as could Jane, or any of 
> the other Mac users on this board. 
> 
> Trouble free - to me - means turning it on and having it actually come 
> on.  Clicking my email icon and actually having it work.  Surfing the 
> Internet with Firefox or Safari - and being able to go to any site 
> without threat of a dangerous popup, trojan horse, or virus.  That's 
> pretty much sums up trouble free to me.  A device that works like it is 
> supposed to.  Like a TV, or radio.
> 
> In my experience, Windows has never been trouble free.  Freezing, 
> locking up, driver issues, viruses, spyware, drive-by trojans, blue 
> screens, support calls to foreign countries, activation issues, more 
> software to purchase.  This is my definition of Windows.  Not exactly 
> trouble free.
>> An average non-technical user should not have to "learn an OS".  They should
>> be able to sit down at the machine and just get it to work.  
> I agree 100%. 
>>   
>>> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
>>> My other service call this vacation (its hard being a computer guy) was
>>> to another relative whom I built a computer for 3 years ago.  Not one
>>> single Antivirus or Spyware application I had given him had been
>>> updated.  Not once.  The computer was inundated with Viruses and
>>> Spyware - big surprise.  [...]
>>> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
>>>     
>>
>> User error.
>>   
> Absolutely User Error. 
> 
> But 'should' it be his fault?  Had he been using something other than 
> Windows - would it still have been an issue?  I doubt it as most of his 
> problems were Virus/malware related.
> 
> I still stand by my experience that Macs/Linux has far fewer Virus 
> problems than Windows. 
> 
> My Linux machine has been running 3 yrs.  eMail, Internet, Word 
> Processing, music/mp3, video/dvd, photo editing/storage, cd/dvd 
> burning,  web site editing.  I have no firewall and no virus 
> protection.  None. 
> 
> Should I worry?  Maybe.  But I don't.  I may have viruses on here right 
> now - Windows viruses - and without the proper privileges - they can do 
> absolutely nothing.  
> 
> I have purposely gone to hacking sites, warez sites, torrent sites, 
> myspace, etc....sites I know have trojans, and have even had the 
> Winfixer popups - I simply close them.  I purposely open email 
> attachments - even questionable ones - nothing.  I have tried to get a 
> virus.  Sorry.  They cannot do anything on an OS other than Windows. 
> 
> That may indeed change one day - but for now - I feel pretty safe.
> 
>>
>> Want a computer without the false sense of security (ie, the claims of being
>> invulnerable)?  Get a PC.
>>
>>   
> And when it breaks - I'm in the book.
> 
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