[Grovenet] Crazy thought for the day

Fri Mar 7 11:14:18 PST 2008

I have to disagree with you Steven.  Go back and read Allen's 2nd  
post or pull out your handy dandy constitution.
If Hill gets rid of the VP only, she can't just put Bill in because  
Bill is forbidden from holding the office of VP by the 12 amendment.   
(Its the last sentence of that long amendment if you want to find it  
faster.)
The only way to test the theory is for Bill to make it into the line  
of succession and then for everybody ahead of him to meet their demise.

Katie
At least the folks in city council aren't trying to down passenger  
airplanes actively or passively.

On Mar 7, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Steven wrote:

> After Hil gets rid of the VP, she moves Bill into the spot. Allen's
> thought could then be tested.
> Maybe the terrorists are in the city council trying to pass a  
> business tax.
>
> Katie Allnutt wrote:
>> Steven,
>> But the  VP would have to kill her too. She has to be dead for Bill
>> to move up to pres. (Assuming he makes it up to speaker of the house
>> first.)
>> If just the VP goes to the great beyond, then they would just replace
>> the VP, not move the speaker up in those circumstances.
>> It seems more likely that some terrorist plot would take out both
>> Hillary and her VP choice, instead of a suicidal, homicidal VP. As
>> Bush repeats over and over and over, it is not a matter of if, it is
>> just a matter of when we get hit again.  At the rate we are creating
>> enemies right now it wouldn't surprise me if we were hit any day.
>>
>> And since we are on the topic of crazy thoughts for the day, here's
>> one a little lower on the crazy scale.
>> Maybe even the terrorists have already infiltrated the FAA and they
>> are being really sneaky and just skipping inspections of jets and
>> letting the airlines fly planes with cracks in the fuselage. We
>> wouldn't even suspect it was terrorists if they hit us this way, we
>> would just suspect Bush was ignoring the enforcement function of the
>> office of the president. Oh wait, what was that on the news this
>> evening? Bush is ignoring the enforcement function of the office of
>> the president and the FAA is letting airlines fly with cracks in the
>> fuselage of passenger planes?   Really now --Who needs terrorists
>> when you have a president like Bush?
>>
>>
>>
>> Katie
>> PS  Another howler from Bush today on the speechification front. He
>> said that all of the nations that we import oil from are stable and
>> friendly, it's just that some of them don't like us very much.  Isn't
>> it great when you have friends who don't like you?
>>
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Steven wrote:
>>
>>> The person she chooses as a running mate will have to consider
>>> Vince Foster.
>>> All we need is a VP that commits suicide so mysteriously to have
>>> Allen's
>>> idea come to the test.
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-
>>>> bounces at rdrop.com]On
>>>> Behalf Of Allen Warren
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:56 AM
>>>> To: Forest Grove local interests list
>>>> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Crazy thought for the day
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or maybe just too much of my own home-made wine.  :-)
>>>>
>>>> Just found the following text:
>>>> Some have questioned the interpretation of the Twenty-second
>>>> Amendment as
>>>> it relates to the Twelfth Amendment, ratified in 1804, which
>>>> provides that
>>>> "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President
>>>> shall be
>>>> eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
>>>> While it is clear that under the Twelfth Amendment the original
>>>> constitutional qualifications of age, citizenship, and residency
>>>> apply to
>>>> both the President and Vice President, it is unclear if a two-term
>>>> President could later be elected—or appointed—Vice President. Some
>>>> argue
>>>> that the Twenty-second Amendment and Twelfth Amendment bar any two-
>>>> term
>>>> President from later serving as Vice President as well as from
>>>> succeeding
>>>> to the presidency from any point in the United States Presidential
>>>> line of
>>>> succession. Others contend that while a two-term President is
>>>> ineligible
>>>> to be elected or appointed to the office of Vice President, he  
>>>> or she
>>>> could succeed from a lower position in the line of succession
>>>> which he or
>>>> she is not excluded from holding. Others contend that the Twelfth
>>>> Amendment concerns qualification for service, while the Twenty- 
>>>> second
>>>> Amendment concerns qualifications for election. Neither theory has
>>>> ever
>>>> been tested, as no former President has
>>>>  ever sought the Vice Presidency, and thus, the courts have never
>>>> had an
>>>> opportunity to decide the question.
>>>>
>>>> Allen Warren
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: "Steele, Mike" <steelem at pacificu.edu>
>>>> To: Forest Grove local interests list <grovenet at rdrop.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 8:49:53 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Crazy thought for the day
>>>>
>>>> Allen...too much Kool-Aid...
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> --Mike
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-
>>>> bounces at rdrop.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Allen Warren
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:36 AM
>>>> To: Forest Grove local interests list
>>>> Subject: [Grovenet] Crazy thought for the day
>>>>
>>>> Ever since Hillary Clinton became a viable Democratic Party
>>>> presidential
>>>> candidate I've been thinking about what role hubby Bill might  
>>>> have as
>>>> the first "first husband".  What's so fascinating about this
>>>> scenario is
>>>> actually 2 firsts: he would not only be the first "first  
>>>> husband" but
>>>> would also be the first former president spouse to inhabit the  
>>>> White
>>>> House of a sitting President.  Then a thought hit me that was  
>>>> REALLY
>>>> fascinating: could Bill legally become Hillary's VP if she chose to
>>>> select him as a running mate?
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if the laws would indeed allow a former two-term
>>>> President to be a Vice President?
>>>>
>>>> Not that Hillary would select Bill as a VP but just wondering if
>>>> it's a
>>>> legal possibility.
>>>>
>>>> Allen Warren
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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