[Grovenet] Policing in the Grove

[Steven]

Article in the Argus a few weeks back on a report done. Shorter life, less
dollars.
would a cop car parked there do the same? Less revenue, same result.
If the stop was to also check for alcohol, how come the ticket for the belt?
A warning would suffice.
I haven't been popped. I do my best to drive the limit and wear my belt.
I see the people pulled over along 19th and wonder how much of that is
revenue driven. THAT is my complaint.
Cornelius was notorious for tickets. So is North Plains out on 26. Is that
what we want FG to be known for?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com]On
> Behalf Of Jeff Howden
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:44 PM
> To: 'Forest Grove local interests list'
> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Policing in the Grove
>
>
> Steven,
>
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> > From: Steven
> >
> > On that basis, we should force everyone to become
> > obease and smoke. You live shorter lives and cost 'the
> > commons' less in healthcare over your lifietime.
> ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
>
> Huh?  It's been proven time and time again that those that are
> obese and/or
> smoke, while they live shorter lives, actually cost more in
> healthcare over
> their lifetime.
>
> ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> > Handing out tickets for seat belt infractions costs
> > money to many folks who don't have the spare bux nor
> > time. [...]
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> Your argument is suspect, sir.  Those that don't have the time or
> money for
> a ticket should spend the few seconds it takes to put on a seatbelt.  It
> certainly doesn't cost them anything to put one on.
>
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> > [...] A reminder might be in order. But it does bring
> > in more $$$. Just like photo radar stuff. Is it there
> > for 'the common' or for revenue?
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> The answer is yes and no.  I don't think it's possible to say across the
> board that all photo radar is either all for the common good or all there
> for revenue.  I think you really have to look at it on a case by
> case basis.
> For example, you put a photo radar unit in a schoolzone that has notorious
> problems with people speeding during school hours and it could very easily
> argue it's for the common good.  The very presence of that photo
> radar unit
> will be deterrent enough for most folks.  Conspiracy theorists will argue
> that the police department is just being opportunistic and driven by
> revenue.  However, I don't know that there's a soul on this list that can
> successfully convince any of the rest on this list that speeding
> in a school
> zone during school hours is justifiable and not deserving of a ticket.
> However, you take that very same photo radar unit out on to,
> let's say, the
> stretch of Hwy 47 between Porter Rd and Sunset Dr and most would probably
> consider that driven by revenue.  Sure, people don't always drive
> the speed
> limit out there, but there's also very little danger compared to a school
> zone during school hours.
>
> Jeff
>
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