[Grovenet] Irv update-2nd attempt

[Steele, Mike]

It strikes me that the N-T, at 99% accuracy as John mentions here, is
WAY ahead of Fox Noise and, perhaps, most other Rupert Murdoch holdings.

--Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
Behalf Of John Schrag
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:39 AM
To: 'Forest Grove local interests list'
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Irv update-2nd attempt



Yikes! Those stories sound all too familiar. Although I've never kneeled
in
a mud puddle, in the rush to a deadline, I, too, have attributed a quote
to
the wrong person. 

We, in the media, make mistakes all the time (in this week's News-Times,
we
misspelled the name of one my son's classmates, failed to credit a
sports
photo and referred readers to the wrong page on one story) and it will
get
only get worse as newsrooms cut their staffs and websites create even
more
pressure to "be there first" (which often brings out the worst).

But, there's a big difference between making mistakes and "making things
up." Our profession pretty much has a zero tolerance policy on the lying
thing. 

None of us like errors in our work, but consider that even the little
old
News-Times has thousands of facts in it each week, from the name of the
kids
in the photos and the time that Kiss Me Kate starts on Friday night to
the
Vikings' standing in the playoff hunt and the year Irv Nikolai retired. 

Our newsroom staff (of four) gets more than 99 percent of those facts
right
each week, as do journalists at most papers. That doesn't excuse the
mistakes we make, but may put them in context. 

John

-----Original Message-----
From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com] On
Behalf Of Katie Allnutt
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:28 PM
To: Forest Grove local interests list
Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Irv update-2nd attempt

I was quoted in the newspaper once and they reporter had never even  
talked to me. It was pretty funny to see what you said in the paper  
when you didn't get the interview in the first place. (At least I  
'said' some thing nice....)
Turns out it was an innocent mistake or case of reporter not being  
able to write in a straight line and didn't detract from the overall  
point of the article. It was an article about a school fundraiser and  
I could have said those words if I had been asked.

But Steven makes a good point. If the stuff you know about is wrong,  
it does make one wonder about the stuff you don't know about.  The  
reporter on knees in the 3 inch flood is a good example of going way  
over board.

Katie

On May 7, 2008, at 8:28 PM, Steven wrote:

> Gosh, I said make up. I meant to say Get Wrong.
> But there was the case of the reporter on their knees in a mud  
> puddle trying
> to say how bad the flooding was. One of the Portland stations.
> Medical issues I've had. Stories tend to gloss over the important  
> stuff.
> Lump other stuff together until it implies something else all  
> together.
> Quotes wrong. Wrong conclusions from data. That kind of stuff.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet- 
>> bounces at rdrop.com]On
>> Behalf Of John Schrag
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:19 PM
>> To: 'Forest Grove local interests list'
>> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Irv update-2nd attempt
>>
>>
>> Steve:
>>
>> I'd be interested in examples of where you know that the media has  
>> "made
>> stuff up."  Not saying it doesn't happen; just wanting some specifics
>>
>>
>> John Schrag
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet- 
>> bounces at rdrop.com] On
>> Behalf Of Steven
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:56 AM
>> To: Forest Grove local interests list
>> Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Irv update-2nd attempt
>>
>> Just one of those things about the media. Any time it is a topic  
>> you know,
>> you realize how little the press knows and how much they make up.
>> Makes you
>> wonder about the rest of it.
>>   -----Original Message-----
>>   From: grovenet-bounces at rdrop.com [mailto:grovenet- 
>> bounces at rdrop.com]On
>> Behalf Of Bob Browning
>>   Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:12 PM
>>   To: Forest Grove local interests list
>>   Subject: Re: [Grovenet] Irv update-2nd attempt
>>
>>
>>   An odd headline when the only "trouble" in his past seems to be  
>> that the
>> unions don't like him because he has a strong personality.
>>
>>   And, he would have been on the team, even if for a short time. A  
>> bit of
>> puffery perhaps, but not as bad as stealing a loaf of bread, even  
>> if your
>> kids are starving.
>>
>>    Looks to me like Channel 6 was having a slow news day!!
>>
>>   bob
>>
>>   Steve Jerrett wrote:
>>
>> http://www.koin.com/content/news/topstories/story.aspx?content_id=
> c5f8f1b3-b
> 8fb-43b6-a936-3ca347936161
>
>
>   Accused Schools Chief's Troubled Past
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