last updated 1996 Nov 16.
On "rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5", JMS keeps insisting that Babylon5 is not just "Lord of the Rings with the serial numbers filed off". (If anyone has saved the exact quote, I'd appreciate you emailing it to me).
From: straczynski at genie.geis.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5
Subject: Re: Attn Jms: More PKD in B5,
Date: 30 Oct 1995 23:20:16 -0500
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA
Okay, I've just read a bunch more of these...okay, I admit it, you
got me...I'm doing Philip K. Dick right down the line...and I'm also
doing George Orwell right down the line...and I'm doing Lord of the
Rings beat for beat...and Chalker...and...and Cherryh...and I'm doing
a variation on the Bible, and King Arthur, and the history of Babylon,
and the Idylls of the King....
What? What's that you say? You can't be doing all of these right
down the line, all at the same time? Sure I can. Because there IS no
B5. There's a blank signal that registers in your brain, triggering the
last thing you read, or the most important thing you read. It's a
carefully rigged US Government psychological warfare experiment.
I give up.
jms
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com From: cary at agora.rdrop.com (David Cary) Subject: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Went to Orycon. Had fun. Didn't get enough sleep. Had 92 new messages in my email In-Box when I returned. Met interesting people, including (a) Larry Niven and a few others I was so impressed by that I didn't know what to say; (b) fascinating people I had good discussions with, learned interesting concepts from, and/or laughed out loud with; (c) people that, if I met them in a dark alley, I would turn around and run away. There were 2 big B5-related meetings at Orycon. We managed to keep the person from Claris and the person from Microsoft seperated enough to avoid the annihilating the entire hotel :-). We discovered B5 is *really* "The Muppet Show" with the serial numbers filed off :-). Ivonova == Ms. Piggy (strong-willed, has something against eating pork) Beaker == Lennier (looks harmless, but can survive unlikely explosions/fights, dedicated to someone who will most probably give him a suicide mission) Gonzo and his chickens and his prehensile nose == Molari and his wives and... JMS == Jim Henson And, of course, invisible creatures are all *over* the place attempting to control everyone. So who is Marcus ? Who is Kermit ? Who is Zack ? Who is G'Kar ? Who is Bernie and Ert :-) ? Who is the SnuffleUppagus ? Pehaps Franklin on Walkabout ? The Swedish Chef has a lot of web space: http://www.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Movies_and_Films/Genres/Children/Muppets/Characters/Swedish_Chef/
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:38:36 -0800 To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com From: chris at aracnet.com (Chris Baugh) Subject: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com >Ivonova == Ms. Piggy (strong-willed, has something against eating pork) >Beaker == Lennier (looks harmless, but can survive unlikely >explosions/fights, dedicated to someone who will most probably give him a >suicide mission) >Gonzo and his chickens and his prehensile nose == Molari and his wives and... >JMS == Jim Henson Waldorf and Statler (the two old geezers in the front balcony box who make snide comments about the show) = Vorlons and Shadows - but which is which?
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:54:50 -0800 From: Ruth Horne <rhorne at pullman.com> To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Chris Baugh wrote: > > >Ivonova == Ms. Piggy (strong-willed, has something against eating pork) > >Beaker == Lennier (looks harmless, but can survive unlikely > >explosions/fights, dedicated to someone who will most probably give him a > >suicide mission) > >Gonzo and his chickens and his prehensile nose == Molari and his wives and... > >JMS == Jim Henson > > Waldorf and Statler (the two old geezers in the front balcony box who make > snide comments about the show) = Vorlons and Shadows - but which is which? Don't forget Fozie bear as Garabaldi
From: brian walz <brianw at pacifier.com> To: Ruth Horne <pdx-b5 at aracnet.com> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 05:18:04 -0800 Organization: Church Of Joe Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com On 13-Nov-96, Ruth Horne wrote: <*>Don't forget Fozie bear as Garabaldi To continue the previous thread, because of which we are all going to Hell, would this make him Bearibaldi? Brian +----------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Brian Walz | - Sooner or later, everyone comes to | | brianw@pacifier.com | BABYLON 5 | | www.pacifier.com/~brianw +-------------------------------------------+ | 7106 NE Hazel Dell Ave #36 | The Church Of Joe <*>| | Vancouver, WA 98665 | Brian Walz - High Priest | | (360)750-4783 | http://www.pacifier.com/~brianw/COJ/ | +----------------------------+-------------------------------------------+http://www.pacifier.com/~brianw/ , http://www.pacifier.com/~brianw/COJ/
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 05:58:27 -0800 (PST) From: elana <elana at aracnet.com> To: Ruth Horne <pdx-b5 at aracnet.com> Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, brian walz wrote: > To continue the previous thread, because of which we are all going to Hell, > would this make him Bearibaldi? <wince> No, that would make him Unbearabaldi. -E.
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:42:26 -0800 From: Ruth Horne <rhorne at pullman.com> To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com brian walz wrote: > > On 13-Nov-96, Ruth Horne wrote: > > <*>Don't forget Fozie bear as Garabaldi > > To continue the previous thread, because of which we are all going to Hell, > would this make him Bearibaldi? > > Brian > > Groan!!!!! Thump! But the Swedish Chef has got to be Kosh (Classic) He talks, but you can't quite understand him.
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:35:16 -0800 From: "Richard Chandler" <mauser at Claris.COM> To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com > On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, brian walz wrote: > > > To continue the previous thread, because of which we are all going > > to Hell, would this make him Bearibaldi? > > <wince> > > No, that would make him Unbearabaldi. I dunno, with his hairline going like the way it is, he's not really very Fozzy at all.... -- "Wait a minute, you expect us innocent children to climb up dangerous scaffolding and paint naked people all over a church? We'll do it!!" -- Yakko Warner, Animaniacs "Yeah, I've got ADD, you wanna make something of.... oooh, cool. Look!"
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:29:08 -0800 From: twowolves <twowolves at budget.net> To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com others wrote: > > <wince> > > > > No, that would make him Unbearabaldi. > > I dunno, with his hairline going like the way it is, he's not really very > Fozzy at all.... Oh, then: Fozzy- Wozzy was a Bear... Fozzy- Wozzy had no hair... Fozzy-Wozzy WASN't very fuzzy- WAS he??? <E-gads...Where the heck did THAT childhood-Rhyme-memory creap outa- thought I deleted those files....<g> Twowolves
X-Sender: sandman at bert.cybernw.com Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:37:57 -0800 To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com From: "J. Scot McDonald" <sandman at cybernw.com> Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com > To continue the previous thread, because of which we are all going to Hell, > would this make him Bearibaldi? > Oh look how the mighty hath fallen...... (of courese I'll be dropping right allong with you...I emediatly thought of Ivonabear.) ------------------------------- "Its like I've always said 'You can get more with a kind word and a two by four that you can with just a kind word'" - Marcus Cole
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:49:47 -0800 From: Ruth Horne <rhorne at pullman.com> To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com J. Scot McDonald wrote: > > > To continue the previous thread, because of which we are all going to Hell, > > would this make him Bearibaldi? > > > > Oh look how the mighty hath fallen...... > > (of courese I'll be dropping right allong with you...I emediatly thought of > Ivonabear.) > Then there is Bearcus, and the MinBeari....
From: brian walz <brianw at pacifier.com> To: Ruth Horne <pdx-b5 at aracnet.com> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:23:31 -0800 Organization: Church Of Joe Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com On 14-Nov-96, Ruth Horne wrote: <*>But the Swedish Chef has got to be Kosh (Classic) He talks, but you <*>can't quite understand him. At Orycon, when this subject came up, I said the same thing and the room went nuts with laughter. Took quite a while to return the room to "normal." Brian +----------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Brian Walz | - Sooner or later, everyone comes to | | brianw@pacifier.com | BABYLON 5 | | www.pacifier.com/~brianw +-------------------------------------------+ | 7106 NE Hazel Dell Ave #36 | The Church Of Joe <*>| | Vancouver, WA 98665 | Brian Walz - High Priest | | (360)750-4783 | http://www.pacifier.com/~brianw/COJ/ | +----------------------------+-------------------------------------------+
From: brian walz <brianw at pacifier.com> To: Ruth Horne <pdx-b5 at aracnet.com> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:47:57 -0800 Organization: Church Of Joe Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com On 14-Nov-96, Ruth Horne wrote: <*>J. Scot McDonald wrote: <*>> <*>> > To continue the previous thread, because of which we are all going to <*>Hell, <*>> > would this make him Bearibaldi? <*>> > <*>> <*>> Oh look how the mighty hath fallen...... <*>> <*>> (of courese I'll be dropping right allong with you...I emediatly thought of <*>> Ivonabear.) <*>> <*>Then there is Bearcus, and the MinBeari.... If the Great Maker were to see this thread, he would buy a plane ticket, fly up here, and beat the crap out of all of us. No, this is beyond the Narn Bat Sqaud, this is just terrible. We have Captain John Bearidan Michael Bearibaldi Londo Bearlarri Delann the Minbeari Bearcus the ranger Brian +----------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Brian Walz | - Sooner or later, everyone comes to | | brianw@pacifier.com | BABYLON 5 | | www.pacifier.com/~brianw +-------------------------------------------+ | 7106 NE Hazel Dell Ave #36 | The Church Of Joe <*>| | Vancouver, WA 98665 | Brian Walz - High Priest | | (360)750-4783 | http://www.pacifier.com/~brianw/COJ/ | +----------------------------+-------------------------------------------+
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:00:14 -0600 (CST) From: orso steven n <s-orso at ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com On 14-Nov-96, Ruth Horne wrote: > But the Swedish Chef has got to be Kosh (Classic) He talks, but you > can't quite understand him. <whirr> <thunk> <glissando> "You are not ready for breen." <clang> *************************************************************************** ***** s-orso@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu ****** Every silver lining has a cloud. ***** *************************************************************************** ************ "And I don't care if the Vorlons did give us that ************ ************ snow-globe! We're NOT naming the baby 'Rosebud'!" ************ ***************************************************************************
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:22:28 -0800 From: "Richard Chandler" <mauser at Claris.COM> To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com > If the Great Maker were to see this thread, he would buy a plane > ticket, fly up here, and beat the crap out of all of us. No, this > is beyond the Narn Bat Sqaud, this is just terrible. We have > > Captain John Bearidan > Michael Bearibaldi > Londo Bearlarri > Delann the Minbeari > Bearcus the ranger Don't forget: Susan Ivanobear -- "Wait a minute, you expect us innocent children to climb up dangerous scaffolding and paint naked people all over a church? We'll do it!!" -- Yakko Warner, Animaniacs "Yeah, I've got ADD, you wanna make something of.... oooh, cool. Look!"
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:15:22 -0800 From: Ruth Horne <rhorne at pullman.com> To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com brian walz wrote: > > On 14-Nov-96, Ruth Horne wrote: > > <*>But the Swedish Chef has got to be Kosh (Classic) He talks, but you > <*>can't quite understand him. > > At Orycon, when this subject came up, I said the same thing and the room > went nuts with laughter. Took quite a while to return the room to "normal." > > Brian > I was there, and I had said it one sentence before you did.
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:17:27 -0800 From: Ruth Horne <rhorne at pullman.com> To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com brian walz wrote: > > On 14-Nov-96, Ruth Horne wrote: > <*>J. Scot McDonald wrote: > <*>> > <*>> > To continue the previous thread, because of which we are all going to > <*>Hell, > <*>> > would this make him Bearibaldi? > <*>> > > <*>> > <*>> Oh look how the mighty hath fallen...... > <*>> > <*>> (of courese I'll be dropping right allong with you...I emediatly thought > of > <*>> Ivonabear.) > <*>> > <*>Then there is Bearcus, and the MinBeari.... > > If the Great Maker were to see this thread, he would buy a plane ticket, > fly up here, and beat the crap out of all of us. No, this is beyond the > Narn Bat Sqaud, this is just terrible. We have > > Captain John Bearidan > Michael Bearibaldi > Londo Bearlarri > Delann the Minbeari > Bearcus the ranger > Can't forget Lennear, of the third Mane of Beardomo.
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:29:33 -0800 (PST) From: Cheshire <cheshire at aracnet.com> To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Ruth Horne wrote: > brian walz wrote: > > > > On 14-Nov-96, Ruth Horne wrote: > > <*>J. Scot McDonald wrote: > > <*>> > > <*>> > To continue the previous thread, because of which we are all going to > > <*>Hell, > > <*>> > would this make him Bearibaldi? > > <*>> > > > <*>> > > <*>> Oh look how the mighty hath fallen...... > > <*>> > > <*>> (of courese I'll be dropping right allong with you...I emediatly thought > > of > > <*>> Ivonabear.) > > <*>> > > <*>Then there is Bearcus, and the MinBeari.... > > > > If the Great Maker were to see this thread, he would buy a plane ticket, > > fly up here, and beat the crap out of all of us. No, this is beyond the > > Narn Bat Sqaud, this is just terrible. We have > > > > Captain John Bearidan > > Michael Bearibaldi > > Londo Bearlarri > > Delann the Minbeari > > Bearcus the ranger > > > Can't forget Lennear, of the third Mane of Beardomo. > And Captain Jeff Sinbear...Lyta Alexanbear... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheshire <cheshire at aracnet.com> <*> "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:36:26 -0800 From: Mike Shkolnik <madman at madmartian.com> Organization: Mad Martian To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com >>>>> Bear thread >>>> More bear thread >>> Still more bear thread >> More about bears than any sane person can stand > More about bears than any insane person can stand I CAN'T BEAR IT ANYMORE!!!!! THIS BEARLY HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH B5!!!! IT'S EMBEARASSING!!!! I'M GROWING A BEARD READING ALL THESE MESSAGES!!!! WHEN WILL THE GRISLY THREAD STOP?!!! WHEN WILL STIMULATING CONVERSATION COME OUT OF HIBERNATION?!!! :) Thank you, -Madman
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:17:35 -0800 (PST) From: Amy Carpenter <amy_c at efn.org> To: Ruth Horne <pdx-b5 at aracnet.com> Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, brian walz wrote: > If the Great Maker were to see this thread, he would buy a plane ticket, > fly up here, and beat the crap out of all of us. No, this is beyond the > Narn Bat Sqaud, this is just terrible. It'd be worth getting the crap beaten out of us to get a visit from JMS... Shall I forward this to him? ;-) --AmyCat p.s. I don't think Delenn should be a teddy-bear... but I have a really cute stuffed kitty-doll...
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 03:44:43 -0800 (PST) To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com From: Heather & Jim Beavens <beavens at teleport.com> Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com >(of courese I'll be dropping right allong with you...I emediatly thought of >Ivonabear.) I Vona Bear, too! (sorry, couldn't help myself!) <bows head in shame> --Heather Ailee
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:55:48 -0800 To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com From: "J. Scot McDonald" <sandman at cybernw.com> Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers] Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com >> > >> > Captain John Bearidan >> > Michael Bearibaldi >> > Londo Bearlarri >> > Delann the Minbeari >> > Bearcus the ranger >> > >> Can't forget Lennear, of the third Mane of Beardomo. >> >And Captain Jeff Sinbear...Lyta Alexanbear... > Oh Lea....Just what kind of penance are the COJ members going to have to endure for this thread..... If it gets any worse, you might consider spacing.... The Maker knows that probably the only thing that will stop us. (Ps don't forget Bearal and the Great machine) ------------------------------- "Its like I've always said 'You can get more with a kind word and a two by four that you can with just a kind word'" - Marcus Cole
From: LeaDay at aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:27:24 -0500 To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: pdx-b5: Muppets... Bears.... Sender: owner-pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com ah, now I see a pattern emerging .. Muppet .. Bear ... Muppet ... Bear if we are all damned now, I can tell you what wont be on tv in hell ... Lea
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:25:12 -0800 (PST) From: elana <elana at aracnet.com> To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com Subject: Re: pdx-b5: Muppets... Bears.... Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com On Fri, 15 Nov 1996 LeaDay at aol.com wrote: > ah, now I see a pattern emerging .. Muppet .. Bear ... Muppet ... Bear Purple... green... purple.... green... Figures. :) But as the Narn chefs like to say: "It's not easy being breen." <grin, duck and run!> -E.
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:41:53 -0800 (PST)
To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com
From: Martin Declan Kelly <declan at teleport.com>
Subject: Re: pdx-b5: B5=Muppets [no spoilers]
Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com
>
>Captain John Bearidan
>Michael Bearibaldi
>Londo Bearlarri
>Delann the Minbeari
>Bearcus the ranger
Of course, you forgot
Bearbylon 5
Martin
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> Brian
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:06:13 -0800
To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com
From: Burt Clothier <antar at wolfenet.com>
Subject: pdx-b5: <FWD> Re: various B5 humor
Reply-To: pdx-b5 at aracnet.com
As long as this particular thread continues to be flogged...
I passed on some of the B5 = Muppets ideas and this is what I got in return.
It's only fair that I share...
:)
>Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 22:11:19 -0800
>From: Vance Atkins <glacier at nwlink.com>
>Reply-To: glacier at nwlink.com
>To: Burt Clothier <antar at wolfenet.com>
>Subject: Re: various B5 humor
>
>And of course, Sheridan is Kermit (without the fixation by the pig, of
>course). And if we move into the Sesame Street pantheon, we have Zack
>as Grover (well meaning, but a bit uncoordinated - 'Oh, it's Super
>Grover.') The Old Ones are represented by Mr. Snuffleufagus (just out
>of sight, except to a chosen few). Garibaldi is played by Oscar the
>Grouch (he's finally let go). G'kar (1st-2nd seasons) is the Cookie
>Monster. I'd place Londo as the Count now (1 dead Narn hahaha. 2 dead
>Narn hahaha).
>
>Animal = ?
>Big Bird = ?
>
>Of course, I'm trying to figure out now where the two alien muppets that
>do the phone routine fit in...
>
BGC
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